Episode summary
Former Intel CEO on What Went Wrong, What's Next + Lovable CEO on the Real Promise of Vibe Coding
All-In Podcast
· · Hosts: Jason Calacanis, Chamath Palihapitiya, David Sacks, David Friedberg · Guests: Pat Gelsinger, Anton Osika
Summary
The guest argued that Intel’s decline began when the company stopped being run by deeply technical leaders and became too driven by finance and short-term capital returns. He said Intel had not built a new factory in a decade, passed on opportunities like chips for the iPhone, and underinvested in the manufacturing and process technology that once made it dominant. He contrasted that with Apple and Nvidia, which he described as making strategic, technology-led bets that compounded over time.
He also said Taiwan’s semiconductor concentration is a major geopolitical and economic risk. In his view, the Chips Act is helping and US leading-edge manufacturing has risen from about 12% to about 18%, but Taiwan still matters enormously because a prolonged blockade could trigger a catastrophic global supply shock. He warned that Taiwan has less than 3 weeks of energy reserves and said a brownout there would be worse than the Great Depression economically.
On AI, he said the buildout is real but constrained by energy, which he thinks limits how far the bubble can run in the near term. He was optimistic about a multi-decade expansion in AI, quantum, and classical computing, while saying quantum will deliver meaningful results before 2030. The Lovable founder then argued that vibe coding has moved beyond mockups into real software and businesses, with one million new projects a week and more than 50 million apps built to date.
Key takeaways
- The guest said Intel’s biggest mistake was letting business leaders overrule technical decision-making and underinvesting in fabs and process technology.
- He said US leading-edge chip manufacturing has improved from about 12% to about 18% since the Chips Act, but still has a long way to go.
- He warned that Taiwan’s less than 3 weeks of energy reserves make a blockade or brownout a severe global supply-chain risk.
- He said AI spending is constrained by power availability, which he thinks will help prevent the bubble from running too far ahead of reality.
- The Lovable founder said the platform is seeing about one million new projects built every week and more than 50 million apps built to date.
Notable quotes
“I view one of the things that went off the rail was when it started to be run by business people”
“you don't do that through a spreadsheet. That's a lousy investment, right? Unless the technology trends make it the right investment”
“the island of Taiwan has less than 3 weeks, a big article in the Wall Street Journal two weeks ago on this, less than 3 weeks of energy reserves”
“I think China has blockaded the Taiwan Straits seven times over the last four years”
“We're seeing a million new projects built every single week on the”
How the episode opens
Spent a long time at Intel. — Yeah. — And uh — Only 34 years. — 34 years. — Yeah. — Probably one of the greatest American companies uh ever. And then absolutely went off the rails and got absolutely demolished by Nvidia, TSMC, uh and I guess Apple to a certain extent. So you had this incredible Intel inside moment. We bought our computers based on, you know, hey, the Pentium and that sound
Intel inside, baby. Intel insideum. And so, let's talk about how things went wrong. What went right and then
How did it and and you were there for a long time. You took a break and then you came back. But there seemed to be have been some critical mistakes that we can learn from.
So, let's just embrace it and go right into it. tremendous success as an American company coming back now I think uh reasonably but when you when we look back on it and we do our post-mortem what were the mistakes a and what would we change in terms of the direction of that company
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Having spent so much of my life there, you know, I view it. I joined when I was 18. I went through puberty at Intel, right? I joke, right? I was just like, you know, I am so early.
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Topics
- intel downturn
- taiwan blockade risk
- semiconductor geopolitics
- vibe coding
- app builder cost
Companies and tickers mentioned
- INTC
- Intel
- Lovable
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