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All right, everybody. Welcome back to the number one podcast in the world. Your favorite podcast. Your podcaster's favorite podcast. Yes, it's the All-In podcast. The Core Four, the Fantastic Four, the original Quartet is here. David Freeberg, hot off of his deep state conspiracy interview with Eric Weinstein. Amazing. You did a little run to DC. Great episode, Freeberg.

It was fun. Eric is one of a kind. I saw Katzios, too. kind of two sides of the coin of science in America was the basis of those two interviews. They were fun. — Who is Eric Weinstein? He's a scientist who works with Peter Teal from Harvard. Has done some really capital.

Yeah. And he um he had a podcast for a hot minute. He is a heterodox thinker in science. — What is his heterodoxical thought about science? There's all these things that everyone takes as fundamental premises in modern physics like the string theory as an example and he thought it was and called it out as So he's been kind of outcast in the scientific communities.

It is right? And so he's made this case and he's proposed alternative theories that kind of create a grand unification theory of physics. And then he's been outcast by the scientific community and people say that he's a quack and he's and he's talked about UFOs and he's talked about Jeffrey Epstein and people kind of say well this guy's fringe or they use these different terms to chastise him and over time you know the point is similar to what Katios has said like so much of science has kind of followed this sheeplike mentality where everyone has to line up agree to the same general theory or you get outcast you don't get grant funding you don't get tenure you don't jobs, you don't get invited to do lectures, you have to follow the mainstream in science or you're outcasts.