Episode summary
OpenAI's Code Red, Sacks vs New York Times, New Poverty Line?
All-In Podcast
· · Hosts: Chamath Palihapitiya, Jason Calacanis, David Sacks, David Friedberg
Summary
OpenAI’s “code red” memo is framed as a response to mounting competitive pressure from Google Gemini, Anthropic Claude, and xAI Grok. The host and a guest argue that ChatGPT’s share has been slipping, that distribution now matters as much as model quality, and that the market is moving toward specialization rather than a single winner. They say Google and other large players can afford to subsidize AI to protect their ecosystems, while OpenAI may need to shut down side projects and refocus on the core product. A guest also argues that AI usage will expand beyond chat into search, images, video, bookings, and agentic tasks, making the overall market much larger even as share fragments.
Key takeaways
- The host and guests argue OpenAI is in a real competitive squeeze, with Gemini, Claude, and Grok all taking meaningful share.
- A guest says Google’s distribution and cash hoard let it subsidize Gemini aggressively, including making it free to defend search and product leadership.
- The panel thinks AI will splinter by use case, with users mixing tools for coding, images, research, and conversational search.
- On David Sacks’s feud with the New York Times, Sacks argues the paper’s story was a hit piece that ignored his divestments and disclosed ethics filings.
- On the poverty line debate, a guest says the headline figure was too extreme, but a real “stagnation zone” exists around $45,000 to $63,000 where benefits phase out.
Notable quotes
“A code red has been called by Sam Alman. He sent a memo on Monday”
“I think the pair trade is to to bet against every it's Chat GPT versus the world”
“there is an area between $45,000 a year and $63,000 a year which actually looks like a bit of a stagnation zone”
How the episode opens
All right, everybody. Welcome back to the number one podcast in the world, the AllIn podcast. In the news, in your feed.
We're ready to go. We've got the original quartet here. The band's back together.
All right. First up on the docket. A code red has been called by Sam Alman.
He sent a memo on Monday. He told employees to stop working on side quests, you know, like ads, etc., and focus on the core chat. GPT, the core experience.
Make it faster. make it better. And I think we all know why because Gemini and Grock and Claude from Anthropic have been crushing it.
Chat GPT5, let's call it what it is, was a bit of a flop. It didn't perform to expectations. We discussed that a couple of weeks ago or months ago.
Anthropic is beating OpenAI in enterprise revenue starting this summer. And I talked about how, you know, previous episodes on the streets. I'm seeing more startups want to use Anthropic API and also Google Gemini's API and and they don't essentially trust Open AI to not steal their business.
So, it's big changes right now. Here is a chart based on data from July. Most of Anthropics revenue here is corporate.
Most of OpenAI's as everybody knows is consumer. And here's another chart. OpenAI's new infrastructure deals versus revenue and this is just for 2025 alone.
A lot of deals being made, but competition is fierce. Chimath, your thoughts here on the game on the field. Code red for people who don't know in our industry is when everybody reports to the office and gets focused on one thing.
And uh that's apparently what Sam's doing. How do you interpret it? Look, I think that there are two things.
Let's do the strategic lens and then the tactical lens.
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Topics
- openai competition
- chatgpt market share
- sacks vs new york times
- ai regulation
- poverty line policy
Companies and tickers mentioned
- NYT
- NVDA
- OpenAI
- New York Times
- Nvidia
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