Episode summary
Is this a generational opportunity in financing digital infrastructure? Blue Owl's, Matt A'Hearn -
Alt Goes Mainstream
· · Hosts: Michael Sidgmore · Guests: Matt A'Hearn
Summary
Blue Owl’s Matt A'Hearn argues that digital infrastructure has become a broad, long-duration financing market built around the growth of cloud, AI, and electrification, not just a narrow data center trade. He traces the industry’s evolution from towers and fiber into today’s campus-scale data center projects, and says the core job is to solve infrastructure bottlenecks for hyperscalers such as Amazon, Microsoft, Google, Meta, OpenAI, and Anthropic.
A'Hearn says the opportunity is driven by a large and still-growing capital stack: hyperscalers are now projecting roughly $350 billion of capex, while the industry may require about $2 trillion of revenue five years out. On the supply side, he emphasizes power as the main constraint, alongside sites, labor, water, and transmission. In his view, the hardest part of underwriting is finding the right locations and securing power with enough certainty and speed.
He also frames digital infrastructure as a way to play AI without picking a winner among model developers. Blue Owl, he says, can underwrite high-quality counterparties, long leases, and mission-critical usage, while permanent capital and scale make the firm a more credible long-term partner. That same scale, he argues, reduces competition and opens the door to wealth-channel products built around stabilized data center assets.
Key takeaways
- A'Hearn says digital infrastructure is a “generational opportunity” because AI adds a new growth wave on top of already strong cloud demand.
- He argues the biggest constraint is power, not capital, because sites, transmission, generation, water, and labor all limit data center supply.
- A'Hearn says hyperscalers now need far more capacity than they did in 2022, and that existing data centers cannot support their projected growth.
- Blue Owl’s scale and permanent capital let it offer long-term financing solutions that smaller capital providers cannot match, according to A'Hearn.
- He says investors can use stabilized data center assets to gain AI and cloud exposure without having to pick the winning model company.
Notable quotes
“We view this as a generational opportunity in the market without a doubt. But it's not this is not just an AI story when we think about data center and digital infrastructure”
“What we think we're able to do is say, okay, what is the highest and best use of your capital as you think about return profile”
“We think about data centers like we're the plug. We're the connectivity”
“it starts with and you had the question about is it infrastructure or real estate. This is where the infrastructure word comes into play”
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going. Welcome back to the Elkco's mainstream podcast. Today's episode dives into digital infrastructure and how it powers artificial intelligence.
We sat down in Blue's New York office with Matt Ahern, an asset management entrepreneur and executive at Blue. Matt is a senior managing director at Blue and head of digital infrastructure. He's responsible for leading the overall management of digital infrastructure, including strategy, investments, and portfolio management.
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Topics
- digital infrastructure
- data center investing
- ai capex
- hyperscaler partnerships
- power constraints
Companies and tickers mentioned
- Blue Owl
- Blue Owl Digital Infrastructure
- Moelis & Company
- IP Partners
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