Episode summary
We Believe The Market Has Not Digested The SpaceX Quarter
ARK Invest
· · 1 hr 35 min · Hosts: Cathie Wood, Brett Winton, Tasha Keeney, Daniel Maguire, Sam Korus · Guests: Alex Potter, Pierre Ferragu, Aaron Burnett
Summary
ARK’s post-earnings discussion centered on how SpaceX’s and Tesla’s latest numbers force investors to rethink models that were built for much smaller outcomes. Alex Potter said Elon Musk’s $1 trillion revenue comment made sell-side consensus look “roughly 5x wrong,” while Brett Winton argued that 20 gigawatts of lined-up power and cooling, plus a fast-ramping terrestrial compute business, changes the company’s trajectory dramatically. Aaron Burnett and Pierre Ferragu tied that expansion to Starship cadence, orbital compute, and the idea that demand for AI infrastructure can absorb very large capital deployment.
The panel also argued that SpaceX’s connectivity, data-center, and AI businesses are converging into one platform. Tasha Keeney said ARK’s updated Tesla work now assumes $4,400 per share, with roughly 80% of enterprise value from robo-taxi economics and a growing role for Optimus. Alex Potter emphasized that Tesla’s 1.74 million FSD subscriptions and 2 million driverless miles make the monetization story more concrete than before, while Pierre said the speed of Tesla’s driverless rollout compared with Waymo is itself a proof point.
The discussion repeatedly returned to capital allocation, financing, and merger odds. Brett put the SpaceX-Tesla merger probability above 90% within 18 months, but the panel agreed the main bear risks remain debt markets, regulation, China, and long-horizon execution errors.
Key takeaways
- Alex Potter said Elon Musk’s SpaceX revenue comment left consensus “roughly 5x wrong,” forcing a major model rewrite.
- Brett Winton argued 20 gigawatts of lined-up power and cooling could support a much larger terrestrial compute business and justify the new revenue outlook.
- Aaron Burnett said one to two Starship launches per week is the key cadence for unlocking more Starlink bandwidth and future Star Mine capacity.
- Tasha Keeney said ARK’s Tesla base case is $4,400 a share, with about 80% of enterprise value tied to robo-taxi economics.
- Pierre Ferragu said Tesla’s 2 million driverless miles in eight months suggest the vision-only autonomy stack is working and scaling faster than Waymo.
- Brett Winton put the probability of a SpaceX-Tesla merger above 90% within 18 months, though he said shareholder approval and regulation remain hurdles.
Notable quotes
“we're going to come in around 13 and there's a probability that we get to 20”
“I think we're looking at a realistic um upmass of you know somewhere in that 40 to 60 range of number of launches we can see next year”
“our base case forecast is $4,400 a share”
How the episode opens
Welcome to the call after the calls. Excited for everyone to join us. We've got amazing guests talking about SpaceX and Tesla.
Of course, we've got the entire ARC team here. We've got Tasha, we've got Daniel, we've got Kathy, we've got Brett, and we've got some amazing guests as well externally. Don't forget Daniel there as well.
We've got Pierre Farrago of New Street Research, Sean Magcguire joining later from Sequoia, Aaron Bernett of course of Mach 33 and Alex Potter from Piper Sandler. So, a amazing combination sellside, research, buy side. Uh we'll be able to get all perspectives here on all things SpaceX and Tesla.
We're live across X, LinkedIn, YouTube, Tik Tok. Uh I think you can find us anywhere. So definitely drop comments and questions.
We've got people monitoring all of those lines. We'd love to be able to answer some insightful questions. Uh and of course before we get started, as is customary, we'll read a little bit of a disclaimer here.
So the information provided in today's conversation is forformational purposes only and does not constitute an offer, solicitation, or recommendation regarding any investment, product, or service. Any reference to a particular company or security is not an endorsement by ARC nor a recommendation by ARC to buy, sell or hold any security. ARK and its clients as well as its related persons may but do not necessarily have financial interest in securities or issuers that are discussed.
Historical results that may be discussed are not indications of future results. We cannot discuss any private or non-public material information of any kind. Certain statements made during today's conversation may be statements of future expectations or other forward-looking statements based on the current views and assumptions of ARC and its guests and involve both known and unknown risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results, performance or events to differ materially from those expressed or implied.
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Topics
- spacex revenue assumptions
- tesla full self-driving attach rate
- starship launch cadence
- spacecraft autonomy proof of concept
- spacex tesla merger odds
Companies and tickers mentioned
- TSLA
- PIPR
- SpaceX
- Tesla
- Piper Sandler
- New Street Research
- Mach33
- Starmind
Watch the episode
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