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Why Stablecoins Need to Move Beyond the Dollar

Bankless · · Hosts: David Hoffman · Guests: Sebastian Serrano

Why Stablecoins Need to Move Beyond the Dollar – Bankless

Summary

Sebastian Serrano argued that the next stablecoin wave in Latin America will not be dollar-only. Ripio has tokenized six local currencies — Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Mexico, Chile, and Peru — and is trying to make them usable for payments, savings, and DeFi, not just as speculative assets. He said the core insight is that people in LatAm already live in local currencies day to day, even if they save in dollars, so the useful onchain product is often a local stablecoin rather than another USD wrapper.

He described Ripio as a long-built crypto infrastructure company that started with consumer wallets and exchanges in 2013, then shifted heavily into B2B partnerships with banks, fintechs, e-commerce, and brokerages. Serrano said licenses, local banking relationships, and access to real-time payment systems like Pix in Brazil and CBU in Argentina are what make zero-fee, one-to-one on-ramps possible. In his view, the real product is a “stablecoin sandwich”: users move between local rails and onchain balances without paying FX or losing money on onboarding.

Serrano said the local-currency strategy is already working: the suite launched in November last year, grew from about 800K AUM to 15 million, and now sees roughly 46,000 monthly active addresses. He expects the largest near-term use cases to be cross-border payments, local-currency DeFi borrowing, and localized markets such as prediction markets, with Ethereum EVM chains — especially Ethereum, Base, Celo, and World Chain — carrying most of the activity.

Key takeaways

  • Sebastian Serrano said Ripio’s bet is that local stablecoins will matter more than dollar stablecoins for everyday payments in Latin America.
  • He said the product launched in November last year, grew from about 800K AUM to 15 million, and reached about 46,000 monthly active addresses.
  • Serrano argued that zero-fee, one-to-one on-ramps require local licenses, banking relationships, and access to real-time rails like Pix and CBU.
  • He said Ripio’s strongest distribution is B2B, including integrations with banks, fintechs, brokerages, and Mercado Libre’s crypto stack.
  • He expects cross-border FX, localized DeFi borrowing, and localized prediction markets to be the biggest long-term uses for tokenized fiat.

Notable quotes

“we're talking about the tokenization of local fiat currencies of Latin America's biggest six economies, Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Chile, Peru, and Mexico”

— A speaker on Bankless

“people use it. They use it to pay their bills in local currency. Almost every contract is denominated in local currency”

— Sebastian Serrano at 16:29

“we need to make the on boarding one to one. So the the user has to pay zero fees on the on boarding and then we need to make it a deposit on chain”

— Sebastian Serrano at 16:29

“the actual value were in these crypto fintex startups that actually had the licenses and went down into the nation state apparatus”

— A speaker on Bankless at 8:19

“the entire supply that we have today is like is 15 million. Um like when we launched it in November last year with less than a million”

— Sebastian Serrano at 28:26

Topics

  • stablecoins
  • onchain payments
  • latin america crypto adoption
  • self-custody wallet deposits
  • cross-border payments

Companies and tickers mentioned

  • Ripio

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