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Dylan Jovine | Trump’s New Executive Order Could Ignite the AI Power Boom

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Dylan Jovine | Trump’s New Executive Order Could Ignite the AI Power Boom – Behind The Markets Podcast

Summary

Dylan Jovine argues that the AI trade has shifted from simply building data centers to solving a far bigger constraint: power. He says the world can now build the chips and facilities, but many of those data centers cannot actually operate because the grid cannot supply enough electricity. He cites examples including Meta’s Louisiana project, which he says could use more power than New Orleans, and says Morgan Stanley warned the buildout could halt without more energy.

He frames the issue as both an investment theme and a national security problem. According to Jovine, China has an advantage because it already has strong energy and nuclear infrastructure, while the U.S. must move faster to avoid falling behind. He says political resistance to higher household power bills is pushing a new solution: Trump is allowing companies to bypass the traditional grid and build their own power plants.

Jovine says that shift creates a major opportunity for investors because it could unlock a $7 trillion energy crunch tied to AI demand. He points listeners to a webinar on Thursday at 1:00 to discuss where he sees the biggest opportunity as the AI power boom accelerates.

Key takeaways

  • Dylan Jovine says the AI trade has moved from data-center construction to the much harder problem of securing enough electricity to run those facilities.
  • He says Meta’s Louisiana data center could use more power than New Orleans, underscoring how extreme the load problem has become.
  • Jovine says Morgan Stanley warned the data-center buildout could “come to a screeching halt” if energy access does not improve.
  • He argues China’s nuclear and energy infrastructure could give it an edge in the AI race over the U.S.
  • He says Trump’s executive orders are letting companies bypass the grid and build their own power plants, which he sees as an investable shift.

Notable quotes

“Basically, every tech revolution is at root also an energy revolution”

— Dylan Jovine at 0:30

“We all know that the problem is what you're getting into is a place where there are data centers, beautiful data centers that are built, but they can't plug them in anywhere”

— Dylan Jovine at 1:28

“Meta is building a massive data center in Louisiana, which is projected to consume more power than the entire city of New Orleans”

— Dylan Jovine at 2:14

“Morgan Stanley came out with a report recently. They said, "Look, this data center buildout is going to come to a screeching halt if we can't get energy to these data centers in time”

— Dylan Jovine at 2:45

“Trump is allowing these companies to bypass basically the electric grid completely and build their own power plants”

— Dylan Jovine at 5:21

How the episode opens

Good morning. This is Dylan Joy with Behind the Markets. Happy Tuesday.

Today is Tuesday, February 17th, and I'd like you to take out a pen, mark your calendars. Thursday the 19th. This Thursday at 1:00, we're going to be having a webinar and talking about the next movement along the energy story.

And it's really, really interesting here. We were very early to the AI energy story. You've heard me say this a thousand times.

Basically, every tech revolution is at root also an energy revolution. And you think about steamboats, you think about railroads, you know, using coal, massive amounts of coal to get across the country, you know, really driving up massive amounts of coal production. You think of cars, you know, what made Rockefeller the richest man in the world?

It wasn't really just oil for candlelights, which is what he started selling. It was oil and gasoline for machines and you know just took off. As car use took off so did his wealth and we're in a similar situation where we're entering now this really interesting new phase.

The story has moved along and it has changed in the past year. So for a while it was all about we all know it's about build data centers, build data centers, build data centers. We all know that the problem is what you're getting into is a place where there are data centers, beautiful data centers that are built, but they can't plug them in anywhere.

So, they're just sitting there with all these fancy chips and all these fancy computers and hardware. They can't do anything. The grid can't handle the energy needs of these data centers.

Again, a problem that we've talked about. And just to give you some idea of how big the problem is getting now, a standard data center consumes about as much energy as 100,000 households.

From the episode’s captions: roughly the first two minutes, lightly cleaned. Keep watching on YouTube →

Topics

  • ai energy bottleneck
  • ai data center power demand
  • power grid constraints
  • national security and energy infrastructure
  • policy changes and executive order

Companies and tickers mentioned

  • META
  • GOOGL
  • GOOG
  • NVDA
  • MS
  • Meta
  • Google
  • Nvidia
  • Morgan Stanley

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