Episode summary
Why Central Banks Are Buying 70 Tons Of Gold Every Month
Summary
Gold is the main focus, with the host arguing that the metal is approaching record territory because of powerful institutional demand and worsening sovereign debt dynamics. He says central banks are buying roughly 70 tons of gold a month, which he treats as the clearest sign that professional policymakers, not retail traders, are driving the market.
He also points to the Congressional Budget Office’s projection that U.S. interest payments will rise from 892 billion in fiscal 2024 to 1.7 trillion in 2034. In his view, that trajectory makes debt the real long-term driver of gold, because the market ultimately reflects whether the U.S. can credibly deal with its obligations. He describes Washington as unwilling to confront the issue, and suggests that debt is an “800-lb gorilla” that will eventually force itself into prices.
The host says retail investors are still underexposed to gold, noting that gold ETFs make up just 0.17% of U.S. household financial portfolios. He argues that if ordinary investors gradually increase allocations, it could add further fuel to an already strong rally.
Key takeaways
- The host says central banks are buying roughly 70 tons of gold every month, making institutional demand the key support for prices.
- He argues that U.S. debt and interest costs, not retail enthusiasm, are the real long-term driver of gold.
- The host cites CBO projections showing interest payments rising from 892 billion in fiscal 2024 to 1.7 trillion by 2034.
- He says gold ETFs are only 0.17% of U.S. household financial portfolios, leaving room for additional buying if sentiment shifts.
- The host thinks Walmart earnings can reveal real inflation trends better than the CPI through unit price, average ticket and volume data.
Notable quotes
“central banks are buying roughly 70 tons of gold a month. Pure institutional demand unrelated to retail hype”
“the finance ministers of these central banks are not only the smartest investors over time in aggregate”
“the Congressional Budget Office projects that interest payments will total 892 billion in fiscal 2024, rise rapidly”
“there's no way. There's nobody serious on either side. No one's serious about this topic”
“Gold ETFs make up just 0.17%, less than 1% 0.17% of US household financial portfolios”
How the episode opens
Good morning. This is Dylan Jovineal with Behind the Markets. Happy Tuesday.
Today is Tuesday, August 18th. We have quite a busy week this week. We have the Fed Chairman speaking at Jackson Hole on Friday, which always makes the gold market and bond market trade a little funny before that happens.
We have Walmart and Lowe's and other retailers, Target, announcing earnings tomorrow, which is always interesting. And you know, a little pro tip, little known fact, when Walmart announces earnings, it's actually often a better indicator of actual inflation than the Fed CPI rating because it really Listen on that Walmart call for unit price and average ticket, unit volume and average ticket, which tells you if consumers in aggregate are going down in their average transaction amount and volume. But you know, the thing that really has my attention this week is gold.
It's really pushing, pushing, pushing. And I have some notes here that I wrote for you that I'd like to discuss. It's really pushing toward record territory.
A recent industry survey found that 71% of retail investors expect gold above 5,000 in 2026 with big banks like JP Morgan, UBS projecting similar levels. We've talked about it on this channel quite a few times. It's funny.
When I was growing up on Wall Street,
I met all these old-timers. They were gold bugs. Gold, gold, gold. And gold was dead for decades. And I used to think to myself, What are you, like the last member here? I mean, you know, you weren't a members-only jacket. Like you're the last person on earth. What they knew that I did not know at that time was that they had survived the '70s, the inflation of the '70s. I came in early '90s, you know, Mr.
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Topics
- central bank gold buying
- fed jackson hole
- us debt and interest payments
- gold price outlook
- walmart earnings inflation signals
Companies and tickers mentioned
- WMT
- LOW
- TGT
- Walmart
- Lowe's
- Target
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