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Bitcoin Drops Below $63,000, Wiping Out Gain Since Trump’s Win | Bloomberg Businessweek
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· · 37 min · Hosts: Carol Massar, Tim Stenovec · Guests: Paul Krugman, Jurrien Timmer, Tim O'Brien, James Cakmak
Summary
Paul Krugman argued that Bitcoin’s slide looks like a break in faith rather than a normal drawdown, because its recent rise was driven less by fundamentals than by Strategy Inc. and other crypto hoarders, plus a political bet on Donald Trump. He said Bitcoin’s appeal has always been “vibes,” and that the current selloff is different because the ideological case for it has weakened and the market is now tied to Trump’s prospects and the prospect of a bailout.
Krugman said he does not think the administration could easily rescue the industry because the political backlash would be severe, especially amid stories about Trump family enrichment and crypto-linked corruption. He also said Bitcoin has no clear valuation method, calling it a 17-year-old bust as a legitimate payments system, though he acknowledged it can be useful for illicit transfers and ransomware.
Yuri Timmer of Fidelity pushed back, saying Bitcoin can be valued like gold as a network asset and that its decline is unlikely to become systemic. He said the real market stress is about leverage unwinding across speculative assets, while equities remain the long-term anchor and semiconductors the clearest area of opportunity. Later, Tim O’Brien argued Trump’s UAE chip deal raises national-security and corruption concerns, and James Chmach said the AI trade still has room to run even as valuations compress.
Key takeaways
- Krugman said Bitcoin’s latest boom was tied to Trump, Strategy Inc. and leverage, making this downturn feel more like a crisis of faith than a routine correction.
- Krugman argued the U.S. would face a huge political backlash if it tried to bail out Bitcoin, even if it had the power to do so.
- Timmer of Fidelity said Bitcoin can be valued as a network asset and expects the selloff to stay non-systemic, though leverage is amplifying the pressure.
- Timmer said equities remain the best long-term compounder, with gold and Bitcoin serving as diversifiers rather than core portfolio anchors.
- O’Brien said the UAE chip deal could reflect bribery concerns and called Congress and regulators unlikely to check Trump without new legislation.
- Chmach said the AI buildout still favors semiconductors, while higher valuations across tech mean investors need to stay nimble and hedged.
Notable quotes
“this this time looks different. This time a lot of the recent rise has been driven by um strategy inc and other you know uh crypto hoarders”
“It's kind of all vibes. uh and it has bounced back several times from big declines because people had faith in it and because it was you know there was a lot of ideology behind it”
“I don't think it would have gotten up to 125,000 or or you know thereabouts without his election”
“No. Or let let me give a slight qualification. The places where Bitcoin has actually been useful to people uh I mean it's it's it's largely used for essentially uh uh criminal enterprise of some kind”
“You can value Bitcoin on the size of its network. it is a network asset”
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Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio, news. This is Bloomberg Business Week Daily, reporting from the magazine that helps global leaders stay ahead with insight on the people, companies, and trends shaping today's complex economy. Plus, global business, finance, and tech news as it happens. The Bloomberg Business Week Daily podcast with Carol Masser and Tim Stenbec on Bloomberg Radio.
Let's bring in Paul Krugman, Nobel Laurate in economics, research professor at the City University of New York's Graduate Center, author of a popular substack. More than a half million subscribers. People are following him. His writings are a must. He joins us remotely. Uh, professor, good to have you with us. You argue or ask the question rather, is this crypto's fimble winter? Do you think it is?
Yeah.
Uh, yeah. So, I I got a little, you know, we have talked about crypto winters a few times in the past and I got carried away with the winter metaphor and in Norse mythology, the fimble winter is the final disastrous winter before Ragnarok, the end of all things. Um, you know, crypto, it's a it's a really weird space, right?
The uh if you ask how is Bitcoin value compared to fundamentals? Well, what fundamentals? It's kind of all vibes.
uh and it has bounced back several times from big declines because people had faith in it and because it was you know there was a lot of ideology behind it. But this this time looks different. This time a lot of the recent rise has been driven by um strategy inc and other you know uh crypto hoarders.
Uh a lot of it has been political associated with Donald Trump. Everyone is comparing the price now to what happened when when he won the election.
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Topics
- bitcoin selloff
- crypto leveraged bets unwinding
- exchange risk
- macro risk-off
- semiconductor geopolitics
Companies and tickers mentioned
- MSTR
- COIN
- AMZN
- Strategy Inc
- Coinbase Global Inc.
- Gemini Space Station Inc.
- Amazon
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