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China’s Economic, Political Power Was Supercharged 25 Years Ago | Bloomberg Businessweek
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· · 9 min · Hosts: Carol Massar, Tim Stenovec · Guests: Brad Stone
Summary
Bloomberg Businessweek’s December China issue argues that the last 25 years began with a decisive turning point: China’s entry into the WTO on December 11th 2001. Brad Stone says the common expectation was that Western capitalism would liberalize China, but instead China absorbed the lessons of global trade and technology faster than many expected, while the West itself became more like China in some ways. He frames that transformation as one of the biggest economic shifts of the modern era, with China rising into a superpower role faster than almost any country in modern history.
The issue is organized into three parts: a look back at the assumptions surrounding WTO entry, a middle section on ordinary Chinese lives and the pressures of making ends meet, and a forward-looking section on what China’s next 25 years might mean for the global economy. Stone says China’s power is increasingly economic and cultural rather than ideological, with Chinese brands, comedians, and movie franchises spreading abroad.
The conversation also links that long arc to the current Nvidia controversy and the US-China race over AI and advanced chips. Stone argues China has been a better student of Western business and innovation than expected, while the US remains focused on restricting chip exports even as political consensus hardens around curbing China’s access.
Key takeaways
- Brad Stone says China’s 2001 WTO entry launched 25 years of growth that turned it into a superpower faster than nearly any modern country.
- Stone argues the West underestimated how quickly China would learn from Western firms, joint ventures, and supply chains.
- The issue’s structure moves from the past 25 years, to everyday Chinese life, to China’s next 25 years and its global ambitions.
- Stone says China’s influence is expanding mainly through economic and cultural power, not ideological export.
- On AI and chips, Stone says the US political consensus now leans toward restricting China’s access to the most advanced semiconductors.
Notable quotes
“25 years ago December 11th 2001 China entered the World Trade Organization”
“the west would be changing China that you bring in China you you um you let free trade flow”
“China became a a learner more than anyone expected”
“the next 25 years look like for China”
How the episode opens
Bloomberg Audio Studios podcasts, radio news. — You're listening to Bloomberg Business Week with Carol Masser and Tim Stenc on Bloomberg Radio. — Business Week's December issue. It is all about China, its path to modernization, what life is like today, what obstacles lie ahead. kind of perfect timing given everything we're talking about today, which of course is Nvidia's investigation into Jensen Wong's affair with an alleged Chinese spy.
Brad Stone is the editor of Bloomberg Business Week. He joins us from San Francisco. Brad, we want to talk about Business Week's China issue for December. But first, we got to ask you about Nvidia. You've covered tech in the valley for decades. What is your view of the latest chapter of Nvidia?
I mean, Carol, it's such an extraordinary situation. I mean, Jensen Hang is so central to, you know, the AI economy, this this interlin circular series of of of financial investments in all of these companies, these startups. Um, and and look, there's a lot we don't know, but there are a lot of good questions.
this relationship that Nvidia had with Megape um the Southeast Asian company, why Nvidia seemed to intervene in uh investigations of of the company from the Justice Department. You know, it's not a great look for Jensen. Obviously, if it were anyone else, I expect we'd be talking about a resignation letter today, but it's Jensen Wong.
You know, he's the founder of Nvidia. He's the most one of the most accomplished people in the valley. Uh, and I think, you know, we're in a situation where maybe financial markets really start to quake if he even takes a leave of absence.
So, it's a really sensitive time.
Yeah. And and and Brad, I mean, again, it's like perfect timing to be speaking to you about this and to have the the Business Week China issue uh for December coming out because AI is central to what's happening in in China right now and this this affair with an alleged Chinese spy.
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Topics
- china wto entry
- chinese economic growth
- geopolitical power shift
- xi jinping succession
- china future outlook
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