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China’s Moonshot Unveils AI Model, Fueling Tech Rout | Bloomberg Businessweek
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· · 39 min · Hosts: Carol Massar, Tim Stenovec, Emily Graffeo · Guests: Mandeep Singh, Seth Fiegerman, Miguel Lorenzo, Jason Leopold
Summary
The sharpest market move in the episode came from Moonshot’s new Chinese AI model, Kimi K3, which the hosts and guests said intensified a global selloff in semis and other AI-linked names. Bloomberg Intelligence’s Mandeep Singh argued that the main issue remains valuation and positioning, not a collapse in fundamentals, and said demand for LLMs is still strong even if companies are looking for cheaper inference options. Bloomberg News AI editor Seth Figerman said the bigger question is whether China is now only one or two months behind the U.S. frontier rather than six to 12 months, while warning that a more capable Chinese model could pressure premium U.S. offerings and raise security questions.
The episode also looked at Alphabet’s stock drop after delays in its Gemini 3.5 Pro rollout, with Singh saying a frontier-model company cannot afford to be behind in a fast-moving race. He and Figerman both framed the current volatility as part of a larger shift in how developers and enterprises are mixing premium and lower-cost models, rather than abandoning AI spending altogether.
Later, Miguel Lorenzo of NBCUniversal Telemundo Enterprises said World Cup viewing in the U.S. has been unusually broad, helped by the tournament’s expanded field, star players, and the appeal of Spanish-language coverage. The episode closed with Jason Leopold on The Real Wolf of Wall Street, which uses FBI records and archival material to show how the Stratton Oakmont story was darker and more sprawling than the movie suggested.
Key takeaways
- Mandeep Singh said AI fundamentals are still intact, while valuation pressure and crowded positioning are driving the rout in tech and semis.
- Seth Figerman said Moonshot’s Kimi K3 may have narrowed the perceived China-U.S. AI gap to one or two months on the frontier.
- Figerman said the model’s premium pricing could pull customers away from top-tier U.S. models on agentic tasks like coding.
- Singh said Alphabet’s delay in rolling out Gemini 3.5 Pro is a setback because hyperscalers cannot miss the frontier in AI.
- Miguel Lorenzo said nearly half of U.S. World Cup viewers have watched at least some matches in Spanish across Telemundo and Peacock.
- Jason Leopold said his FBI records show the Wolf of Wall Street story was more sophisticated and more current than the movie version suggested.
Notable quotes
“I would agree with your assessment that it is fundamentals uh that are still holding up and it's the valuations and the nervousness around positioning is what is driving this sort of volatility”
“the capabilities of this model from what they publicly disclosed match or exceed those of models from US firms that were released as recently as a month or two ago”
“you can't afford to you know not be on the frontier if you're a hyperscaler right now”
“nearly half of the World Cup audience in the United States has been on Telmundo and Peacock”
How the episode opens
Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio, news. — This is Bloomberg Business Week Daily, reporting from the magazine that helps global leaders stay ahead with insight on the people, companies, and trends shaping today's complex economy. Plus, global business, finance, and tech news as it happens. The Bloomberg Business Week Daily podcast with Carol Masser and Tim Stenc on Bloomberg Radio.
All right, so let's get to it. There's a lot of stuff going on. Um, as I said, I'm obsessed with some of the news out of China.
A surprise breakthrough from Chinese AI startup Moonshot rippling through global markets. We're seeing that play out. It started overnight in Asia.
Semiconductor stocks. Charlie just talked about it sharply lower. Uh, we're kind of thinking, is this another deep seek moment?
You had President Xiinping also overnight his first appearance at China's premier AI summit lending his support to the country's push to become a glo global leader in AI. And you know you've also got Alphabet tanking. There's another story kind of at play here,
Right? Sharers of Alphabet tanking as Google is months behind on schedule on delivering Gemini 3.5 Pro, its most powerful flagship AI model. It's trying to improve its capabilities particularly in codings. And then the credit markets are also reacting to this AI trade. We got to talk about credit, Carol.
The bonds sold by hyperscalers to fuel their AI ambitions have become a drag on investor portfolios with falling prices and wider spreads to negative total returns. That is certainly your world. I feel like it's a lot, but it is always when it comes to what's going on with AI.
We wanted to check in once again with Mandep Singh. He's Bloomberg intelligence global head of technology research. Uh Mandep, I know we I feel like we have the same conversation with you over and over again, but there's stuff that keeps coming at us.
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Topics
- china ai models
- open weight ai
- ai competition us vs china
- nbcuniversal peacock fifa world cup
- media investigation foia
Companies and tickers mentioned
- PARA
- Moonshot
- OpenAI
- Anthropic PBC
- NBCUniversal Telemundo Enterprises
- Paramount Global
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