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Former CFTC Commissioner & Kalshi Board Member Brian Quintenz Talks Lifetime Ban | Bloomberg...
Summary
Brian Quintenz argued that Kalshi’s lifetime ban of George Santos was justified because Santos allegedly showed a “complete lack of cooperation” after being caught, which Quintenz said undermines market integrity and warrants a strong enforcement response. He described the ban as a deterrent meant to show that if someone violates rules and then refuses to cooperate, the exchange can bar them permanently.
He also said the case could still have broader legal consequences, but that criminal action would depend on the scale of the conduct and would require DOJ involvement. Quintenz stressed that Kalshi can police its own platform, while the CFTC can bring civil penalties, and that manipulation cases are harder than fraud cases to prosecute.
The conversation widened to the Ninth Circuit’s ruling that sports bets are not swaps. Quintenz said the opinion created more confusion than clarity, pointed to conflicting state and casino interests, and argued the issue will ultimately need Supreme Court resolution. He defended prediction markets as federally regulated derivatives that provide risk management and price discovery, and said questions about age limits and “mention markets” should be left to Congress or internal company policy rather than arbitrary regulation.
Key takeaways
- Quintenz said Kalshi’s lifetime ban of George Santos was appropriate because Santos allegedly refused to cooperate after being caught.
- He said the CFTC can pursue civil penalties, but criminal prosecution would depend on DOJ and the scale of the misconduct.
- Quintenz argued the Ninth Circuit’s sports-betting ruling added confusion and that the Supreme Court will likely have to settle the issue.
- He said prediction markets are legitimate derivatives because they provide risk management and price discovery, not house-vs-customer betting.
- On age limits and mention markets, Quintenz said the right line should largely be set by Congress or company policy, not regulators acting arbitrarily.
Notable quotes
“I think when I was at the CFTC, it always depended upon, you know, the uh the impact of the behavior”
“the Ninth Circuit opinion provided more confusion than clarity”
“I view betting as as something you do against the house where you know the house always wins. It sets the odds”
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It is a day that ends in Y. So, there's a lot going on with prediction markets. The latest is that ex-Congressman George Santos won't be able to place another wager on Khi after the platform banned him for life for allegedly manipulating wagers on his his attendance at this year's State of the Union address.
Brian Quintens joins us now. He's a former CFTC commissioner. He's former head of policy for A16Z crypto.
That's the VC firm Andresent Horowitz. He's now advising finance and tech companies. He's a board member at Khi Exchange.
So this is the CFTC regulated derivatives market. It's a position he's held since 2021. He joins us here in the Bloomberg Business Week studio.
Brian, welcome.
Thank you. Thanks for having me. — So this is the first such ban by KHI. It the company announced the action on Monday along with a fine of over $71,000. What does it take to get banned by the platform?
Well, I think in this case what we saw was a deliberate lack of cooperation.
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Topics
- kalshi ban
- wager manipulation
- state of the union betting
- cftc regulation
- probe and fines
Companies and tickers mentioned
- Kalshi
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