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Instant Reaction: US Adds 165,000 Jobs, Topping All Forecasts | Bloomberg Businessweek
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· · Hosts: Carol Massar, Tim Stenovec, Tom Keene, Paul Sweeney · Guests: Claudia Sahm, Constance Hunter, Kristina Campmany, Stephanie Roth
Summary
The jobs report showed a much stronger labor market than expected: US payrolls rose 165,000 in October, far above the 70,000 consensus, while unemployment slipped to 4.1% from 4.2%. The host and guests treated that as evidence that the economy still has momentum, even if the labor market remains unusual because hiring is soft while layoffs stay low. Wages also came in firmer than expected, with average hourly earnings up 0.4% month over month and 3.1% year over year.
The guests argued that the report supports the idea of a low-fire, low-hire environment rather than a clean acceleration. One economist said the labor market still feels hard for job seekers, but job retention is strong and bargaining power remains limited because quit rates are low. Another said the combination of higher payrolls, stronger cyclical hiring, and a better participation rate suggests underlying economic momentum, even if consumers still feel the burden of higher prices.
Looking ahead, the discussion centered on whether the strength in labor data keeps the Fed on track to cut in December and possibly again early next year. A portfolio manager said growth is being driven by real activity as well as AI-related capex, but warned that inflation should ease next year as energy and tariff effects roll off. The overall message was that the economy looks solid, but policy, oil, and AI concentration remain key risks to watch.
Key takeaways
- Payrolls rose 165,000 in October, topping estimates by a wide margin and signaling a stronger-than-expected labor market.
- The guests said the jobs data still describe a low-fire, low-hire economy, with weak bargaining power and limited quit activity.
- Wage growth was firmer than expected at 3.1% year over year, but one guest argued that still may not be enough to offset inflation for many workers.
- A guest said the Fed is still likely to cut in December and could follow with another move early next year if markets stay stable.
- One guest said inflation should moderate in 2027 as energy and tariff effects fade, with the consumer still supported by labor income.
Notable quotes
“the labor market has had this really uncomfortable curious balance of the the low hiring but the low firing”
“good news is good news. And the unemployment rate, the overall unemployment rate did tick down with participation going up”
“the consumer has held up really well even though you know there the bottom end of of the consumer has certainly been a lot more challenged than everybody else”
“Our latest big write on our whiteboard in the office says less FOMO”
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This is a breaking news update from Bloomberg. Instant reaction and analysis from our 3,000 journalists and analysts around the world. The October job numbers are crossing the Bloomberg terminal and they show improvement from September.
The US economy adding 165,000 jobs in October, more than double what Wall Street was estimating at 70,000 and much more than the 29,000 we saw in September. And we also saw the jobless rate uh now slipping to 4.1% versus estimates for 4.2%. It was at 4.2% the prior month.
Now, this jobs number, this gain of 165,000 in line with the highest estimates and above what most see as the so-called break even rate. That's the pace of job gains needed every month to keep the unemployment rate stable. Taking a look at the inflation component of this report, we are talking workers wages.
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Topics
- us jobs report
- unemployment rate
- labor market strength
- nonfarm payrolls
- private sector payroll growth
Companies and tickers mentioned
- IVZ
- Invesco
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