Episode summary
Live from Bloomberg Tech in San Francisco: Android Hardware, Mozilla's Open Source AI & Venture...
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· · Hosts: Carol Massar, Tim Stenovec · Guests: Brad Stone, Sameer Samat, Raffi Krikorian, Katie Haun
Summary
The conversation centers on how AI is reshaping tech, business models, and city economics, with the host and guests repeatedly contrasting excitement with risk. Brad Stone argues that the industry is in a massive hype cycle comparable to the late-1990s internet boom, but says the underlying change from AI is real and already altering how people work. He also says the boom is boosting San Francisco while making housing and competition for talent even more difficult.
Sameer Samat frames Android’s AI strategy as turning phones and devices into “intelligent systems” that help users act on intent rather than taps and menus. He highlights Gemini-powered features like shopping help, Notebook LM, and Circle to Search as examples of practical AI, while defending Android’s open ecosystem and choice of assistant as a long-term advantage.
Raffi Krikorian is much more alarmed, saying Mozilla used Anthropic’s Mythos to find vulnerabilities in Firefox and warning that the same capability could threaten banks, utilities, and other critical infrastructure. Katie Haun closes the discussion by arguing that crypto, tokenization, prediction markets, and agentic finance are part of a broader “new economy,” and says stablecoins and Bitcoin remain long-term opportunities despite short-term volatility.
Key takeaways
- Brad Stone says AI is in a hype cycle similar to the late-1990s internet boom, but the underlying shift is still fundamental.
- Brad Stone says San Francisco is benefiting from the AI wealth wave, even as housing and labor costs become more punishing.
- Sameer Samat says Android is evolving from an operating system into an “intelligent system” that acts on user intent.
- Sameer Samat says Android’s openness lets users choose assistants like Gemini or Claude, which he sees as a competitive strength.
- Raffi Krikorian says AI vulnerability-finding tools are powerful enough that critical infrastructure needs a large-scale, Y2K-style security effort.
- Katie Haun says stablecoins, tokenization, and agentic finance are still early-stage opportunities within a broader new economy.
Notable quotes
“We are riding the wave. We are surfing it. We are I It feels like at the peak of a massive hype cycle”
“in this new AI era, how can we actually make the system much smarter? So, you give it your intention, your goal, and it can translate that into the action”
“what does the world look like when you're building financial services and products for the end user who's not a human but the end user who is an agent or a computer”
“There's a lot of excitement and energy in the city. But now the concerns are different”
How the episode opens
Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio, news. This is Bloomberg Business Week Daily, reporting from the magazine that helps global leaders stay ahead with insight on the people, companies, and trends shaping today's complex economy. Plus, global business, finance, and tech news as it happens. The Bloomberg Business Week Daily podcast with Carol Masser and Tim Stenbec on Bloomberg Radio.
Carol Master, Tim Stenbec. Uh this is this annual gathering of leading CEOs, innovators, um everybody who is harnessing technology to really change the world around us. Safe to say once again, we're talking a lot about artificial intelligence.
Yeah, we've heard from the executives, the venture capitalists, the founders at the forefront of the next era in technology, AI, wearables, robotics, the blockchain, and more. Someone who knows a lot about this space is our own Brad Stone. He's sitting down next to me.
We're going to get to him in just a moment. Um, we're also going to talk with our own Ed Lello. He's fresh off a conversation with the co-founder and executive chairman of Anderal Industries.
We're talking about Trey Stevens. So, we'll talk about that. Also, a really fascinating conversation um with Cerebrus Systems last night.
So, Ed's going to also dig into that as well. So, um that's coming your way.
Yeah. Joining us too uh a little later is Katie Han, the former federal prosecutor. She was the first female general partner over at Injury Suborit. She's going to join us. She's got Han Ventures. Just raised a billion dollars for a new venture fund known for crypto. Yes.
But branching out of crypto a little bit, but really also just staying in her lane. — Maybe looking for the next reverse. — Yeah, exactly. — Or something like that.
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Topics
- android hardware diversity
- google ecosystem
- open source ai
- mozilla technology
- venture capital
Companies and tickers mentioned
- GOOGL
- GOOG
- Mozilla
- Haun Ventures
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