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Live from Bloomberg Tech in San Francisco, Part 2: Hatch's New Device, AI Fear, Grammy Winner...

Bloomberg Businessweek Daily · · 40 min · Hosts: Carol Massar, Tim Stenovec, Ed Ludlow · Guests: Ann Crady Weiss, Yoshua Bengio, Hit-Boy

Live from Bloomberg Tech in San Francisco, Part 2: Hatch's New Device, AI Fear, Grammy Winner... – Bloomberg Businessweek Daily

Summary

Bloomberg Tech live from San Francisco centered on the capital frenzy around AI, where the host and Ed Ludlow argued that the key question is not just which companies will go public, but where a finite pool of capital and power will be allocated. Ludlow said the market is effectively choosing between capital-expending AI builders and the companies that will receive that spending, with examples ranging from Alphabet’s equity offering to the funding needs of SpaceX, Anthropic, and others.

The conversation with Hatch CEO Ann Crady Weiss shifted from AI to consumer hardware and sleep, as she introduced the Hatch Sleep Clock, a screen-free bedside device meant to help adults go to sleep rather than score their sleep. She framed Hatch as an antidote to the attention economy, said the company has sold more than 7 million units, and argued that sleep data should belong to the user.

Yoshua Bengio gave the starkest warning of the day, saying AI is not safe yet because systems are becoming more capable faster than humans can control them. He argued that international coordination is needed to manage risks ranging from cyberattacks to misuse in biology and persuasion, while Hit-Boy closed the show with a more optimistic take on technology, saying AI and music software can expand creativity rather than replace it.

Key takeaways

  • Ed Ludlow said the real AI trade is a race for finite capital and compute, not simply a race to IPO.
  • Andrew Feldman’s argument, echoed on the show, was that AI demand is so strong that the current environment is the opposite of a bubble.
  • Ann Crady Weiss said Hatch’s new Sleep Clock is designed to put people to bed, not measure them, and that the company keeps user sleep data free.
  • Yoshua Bengio warned that AI systems are already hard to control and could be misused for cyberattacks, dangerous biology, or mass persuasion.
  • Hit-Boy argued that technology like FL Studio and AI can expand, not diminish, musical creativity.

Notable quotes

“there is a limited finite pool of capital and liquidity in the world. It's not infinite”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Businessweek Daily at 4:44

“we are launching the most exciting product we've ever launched. It's to help adults get good sleep”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Businessweek Daily at 16:54

“Our goal is to put you to sleep. And that's what the Hashe buck does”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Businessweek Daily at 18:14

“No. That's the problem. We're building systems that we don't know how to control”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Businessweek Daily at 31:22

“It is. It's music for sure. You know, you still have a person having to prompt it”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Businessweek Daily at 47:31

How the episode opens

Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio, news. — You're listening to Bloomberg Business Week with Carol Masser and Tim Stenc on Bloomberg Radio. — We're here in San Francisco at uh Bloomberg Tech and we've been talking to a lot of great voices. But what's really also pretty cool is what's up on the stage is so many members of our Bloomberg team including our own Ed Lello having great conversations and we get to kind of talk to him about what he's heard and uh also the conversations he had.

Yeah, Ed Lello is the co-host of Bloomberg Tech. He joins us here on site at the summit. I got I mean I'm a little biased but I have to I I have to say I feel like every year it gets better and better. This is the third year we've done it.

The the energy here is unbelievable.

Yeah. I mean it helps like you know uh Anthropic filing confidentially on Monday for an IPO and SpaceX uh pre-pricing last night. It helps you know that's what people are talking about right but also how interdependent all of the the the speakers on stage are in those industries you know founders fund they're a huge investor in SpaceX the founder of uh Anthropic on stage having filed kind of crazy.

So that's the reality of of why people come to this, you know, it's because of who will be in the room and who's listening.

Listen, you spend so much time, you and Caroline Hyde on Bloomberg Tech every day, you know, trying to go through the hype versus the reality. Um, what do you feel like the mix is here? Because when it comes to AI, there's a lot of optimism as we know, a big spend, but there's also some cautiousness.

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Topics

  • ai fear
  • consumer technology devices
  • tech summit
  • music production
  • innovation leadership

Companies and tickers mentioned

  • Hatch

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