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Robinhood Chain Growth | Bloomberg Businessweek

Bloomberg Businessweek Daily · · 12 min · Hosts: Carol Massar, Tim Stenovec · Guests: Johann Kerbrat

Robinhood Chain Growth | Bloomberg Businessweek – Bloomberg Businessweek Daily

Summary

Robinhood is betting that its future comes from becoming a broader financial platform rather than a pure crypto trading app. Johann Kerbrat said the company has not seen prediction markets taking engagement away from crypto, even as analysts at Bernstein and Piper Sandler argue prediction markets could overtake crypto trading revenue as soon as the second quarter. He framed the recent launch of Robinhood Chain on July 1 as infrastructure meant to support new products, including Robinhood Earn, which he said offers approximately 7% on dollars lent to the protocol.

Kerbrat argued that Robinhood wants to serve customers across life stages, from first retirement accounts to advanced trading tools, while also offering credit cards and banking rails. He pointed to the gold credit card, which he said now has more than a million customers and offers 3% cash back on almost everything. He also said Robinhood’s more than 105 million transactions on the new chain show early momentum.

A major theme was regulation. Kerbrat said clearer US rules, including the Clarity Act, would let Robinhood launch products nationwide and help institutions build long-term crypto projects. He also said Robinhood already offers products abroad that are not yet available in the US, including crypto perpetuals and tokenized stock access, and he sees demand for more retail access to IPOs such as SpaceX.

Key takeaways

  • Johann Kerbrat said Robinhood has not seen users shift away from crypto into prediction markets, despite analyst calls that prediction markets could overtake crypto revenue soon.
  • Kerbrat said Robinhood Chain launched July 1 and has already produced 105 million transactions, which he framed as the backbone for new products.
  • He said Robinhood Earn offers approximately 7% on dollars lent to the protocol, combining DeFi yield with Robinhood's simpler user experience.
  • Kerbrat said the gold credit card has more than a million customers and offers 3% cash back on almost everything.
  • He argued that clearer US crypto regulation would let Robinhood launch products nationwide and attract more institutional adoption.
  • Kerbrat said Robinhood's international products include crypto perpetuals and stock tokens, and that retail demand for IPO access remains strong.

Notable quotes

“we haven't seen that in our data when we look at our customer engagement on the platform”

— Johann Kerbrat at 1:40

“the main goal has been to be this all-in-one platform for all your financial needs”

— Johann Kerbrat at 3:57

How the episode opens

Bloomberg Audio Studios podcasts radio news. — You're listening to Bloomberg Business Week with Carol Masser and Tim Stenc on Bloomberg Radio. — An interesting take from analysts at Bernstein and Piper Sandler this week. They argue that Robin Hood's revenue from prediction markets is set to overshadow that from cryptocurrency trading starting as soon as the second quarter.

Yeah, that's pretty significant. Yeah, I mean we're talking so much more about you think about it uh prediction markets uh the establishment financial firms uh increasingly looked at it. It's something we actually talked about uh with uh the CEO of Charles Schwab yesterday, Rick Worster.

Yeah. Joan Kerrot is here with us now. He's senior vice president and general manager of crypto uh over at Robin Hood. He's also runs the international business as well. He joins us here in the Bloomberg Interactive Brokers Studio. Welcome. Welcome. How are you?

Good. Good. How have you been?

Yeah, we've been good. It's good to have you back here in New York. Welcome back.

We've got this decline in in crypto trading and I think many people would argue it's it's related to the price action that we've seen since October, but at the same time a catalyst in prediction markets with the World Cup. I'm just wondering how you're thinking about this this universe of of these two different elements of of trading and how that affects your users like are they doing less on crypto and more with prediction markets?

Uh we haven't seen that in our data when we look at our customer engagement on the platform. uh we do have contracts on the prediction market platform that are related to crypto index price and crypto actions. Uh but overall I think it's just one of the cycle where we see a bit uh the sentiment in crypto a little down and overall we are just focusing on building new tools and new features that people can utilize when the the sentiment goes up.

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Topics

  • crypto expansion uk and canada
  • robinhood chain public mainnet
  • arbitrum layer 2
  • onchain users
  • new crypto products

Companies and tickers mentioned

  • HOOD
  • Robinhood
  • Arbitrum

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