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SpaceX IPO Is Said to Be More Than Four Times Oversubscribed | Bloomberg Businessweek
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· · 44 min · Hosts: Carol Massar, Tim Stenovec, Ed Ludlow · Guests: Ed Ludlow, Ben Hylak, Paul Andre Huet, Gary Evans, Todd Gillespie, Sri Natarajan
Summary
SpaceX’s IPO is drawing extraordinary demand, with the host noting orders for more than four times the available shares and describing the deal as unusual even by Elon Musk standards. A guest said the company priced the offering before a road show, fixed the shares at $135, and appears to be making the process about allocation rather than price. The guest also argued the valuation is being justified by long-dated growth assumptions, with investors modeling SpaceX’s future revenue potential rather than its current sales base.
The guest framed the capital raise as a funding need for growth, not a political story, and said the company needs money for major expansion plans. He also said SpaceX’s public-market debut reflects Musk’s unusual control and his willingness to run the process on his own terms. The discussion highlighted that some employees could become paper millionaires, but the bigger question is how much of the new capital will go to capex and related investments.
The episode then shifted to AI agents, where a guest from Raindrop said the core problem is that increasingly autonomous tools are being deployed in high-stakes settings like finance, defense, and medicine. He argued the key issue is not just making models smarter, but raising the floor so agents do not make dangerous mistakes. The show closed with a mining segment and a banking segment, tying together critical minerals, government contracts, and Goldman Sachs’ decision to keep Kathy Rumler close despite renewed Epstein scrutiny.
Key takeaways
- The host said SpaceX’s IPO is more than four times oversubscribed, suggesting intense institutional demand ahead of pricing and trading.
- A guest said the deal is highly unusual because SpaceX set a fixed $135 price before the road show, shifting the process toward share allocation.
- The guest argued SpaceX’s $1.8 trillion valuation depends on investors believing in a long-term revenue story, not current earnings or sales.
- A guest from Raindrop said AI agents need monitoring because mistakes in finance, defense, and medicine can be costly or worse.
- The episode’s mining segment emphasized that U.S. antimony supply remains a national-security issue and that domestic producers are still trying to scale up.
- Bloomberg reporters said Goldman Sachs’ David Solomon is privately backing Kathy Rumler despite fresh scrutiny tied to Jeffrey Epstein emails.
Notable quotes
“SpaceX's IPO has attracted demand for more than four times the available shares according to people familiar with the matter”
“There's nothing normal about this IPO”
“I don't think it's moving from 135 a share. It's really an issue of allocation”
“Why does SpaceX need money? they're in a growth phase where all of the things they've outlined just require capital”
“What we really focus on is working with, you know, Fortune 100 companies on raising the floor”
How the episode opens
Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio, news. This is Bloomberg Business Week Daily, reporting from the magazine that helps global leaders stay ahead with insight on the people, companies, and trends shaping today's complex economy. Plus, global business, finance, and tech news as it happens. The Bloomberg Business Week Daily podcast with Carol Masser and Tim Stenbec on Bloomberg Radio.
SpaceX's IPO has attracted demand for more than four times the available shares according to people familiar with the matter. This ahead of that firm talking stopping to take orders. Uh the banks are expected to stop taking orders from institutional investors after the market closes in New York at 400 p.m. on Wednesday.
Wednesday. — Yeah. — So there's so much demand. Is that normal? Uh, let's talk to Ed Lelo about it. He's the co-host of Bloomberg Tech on Bloomberg TV. He joins us here in the Bloomberg Interactive Broker Studio. There's nothing normal about this IPO.
Yes and no. I mean, how they conducted it is unusual, but you know, everything that Elon Musk companies do can be unusual, atypical, and not conform to Wall Street norms. But like the main manifestation of that is before they went on a road show which is where management and their bankers pitch the the IPO and the ideas behind it to the investors
To do that. — They priced it before. You don't do that. Usually you have a range of prices and then you go like so what do you think guys? Where should we price this this bad boy? But they came out early with 135 at a you know the math is 556 5.6 million shares at 135 a piece raising about 75 billion 1.8 8 million valuation. So it's kind of like what have they been doing for 6 days?
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Topics
- spacex ipo demand
- ipo pricing and oversubscription
- goldman ceo controversy
- citigroup m&a ranking
- mining roundup
Companies and tickers mentioned
- USAS
- UAMY
- GS
- C
- SpaceX
- Raindrop
- America's Gold & Silver
- US Antimony
- Goldman Sachs
- Citigroup
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