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Trump Says Talks Are Iran’s ‘Last Chance’ After Threats | Bloomberg Businessweek

Bloomberg Businessweek Daily · · 43 min · Hosts: Carol Massar, Tim Stenovec · Guests: Jeff Mason, Torsten Slok, Lizzie Dove, Ran Eliasaf

Trump Says Talks Are Iran’s ‘Last Chance’ After Threats | Bloomberg Businessweek – Bloomberg Businessweek Daily

Summary

The episode centered on the Trump administration’s conflicting messages on Iran, with the host and a guest journalist saying it was unclear what talks were actually underway and who was involved. The guest said Trump was trying to show a pathway to peace, but argued that the Strait of Hormuz issue and any nuclear deal were nowhere near settled. The conversation also tied the uncertainty to oil prices, which fell as markets reacted to the possibility of diplomacy, even as the guest warned that Iran still had leverage over shipping and energy flows.

A second segment turned to the macro backdrop, with an economist arguing that Iran remains a major jump risk for oil, jet fuel, fertilizer and other commodities. He also said the market is questioning the Fed’s path to 2% inflation and whether tighter financial conditions can substitute for clearer policy action. He argued the traditional 60/40 portfolio is under strain because AI is driving equities while fiscal deficits are driving bonds, creating the possibility that both sides of the portfolio could weaken at once.

The episode then moved to travel and real estate. A Goldman Sachs analyst said the lodging market is still strong in the U.S., but Middle East disruption is weighing on room growth and cruise demand. Later, a real estate credit investor said New York’s rent freeze is not a surprise, that supply is the real housing problem, and that tax incentives and faster approvals are needed to unlock more construction.

Key takeaways

  • The host and a guest journalist said the Iran talks remain opaque, while Trump’s “last chance” rhetoric and Strait of Hormuz claims kept markets focused on diplomacy and supply risk.
  • The economist said Iran still poses a serious jump risk for oil, jet fuel, fertilizer and helium, even after the initial market selloff in crude.
  • The economist argued the 60/40 portfolio is less reliable because AI is concentrating equity returns while fiscal deficits are pressuring bonds.
  • The Goldman Sachs analyst said U.S. lodging demand remains solid, but the Middle East is hurting room growth and adding downside risk to cruise travel.
  • The real estate investor said New York City needs more supply, not just demand limits, and that tax abatements and faster approvals are essential to build housing at scale.

Notable quotes

“that just becomes a a situation of who do you believe and it's hard to answer that question”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Businessweek Daily at 1:15

“this continues, unfortunately, to still be very, very important because it literally is the case that we could have some tanks get to critical levels”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Businessweek Daily at 15:46

“suddenly you have two new factors that have been a key driver of equities namely AI and a key driver of bond markets namely fiscal”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Businessweek Daily at 27:06

“You need to create supply. Politicians are focusing on limiting demand”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Businessweek Daily at 48:19

How the episode opens

Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio, news. — This is Bloomberg Business Week Daily, reporting from the magazine that helps global leaders stay ahead with insight on the people, companies, and trends shaping today's complex economy. Plus, global business, finance, and tech news as it happens. The Bloomberg Business Week Daily podcast with Carol Masser and Tim Stenc on Bloomberg Radio.

We have a great voice right in studio with us to kind of uh get to all things the president and the White House. With us is Bloomberg News White House and Washington correspondent Jeff Mason here in studio. In the meantime, we will monitor of course uh the president's comments and bring you anything uh of substance. Um Jeff, good to have you here with us. I do want to

Be with you. I guess it's I think fair you've been listening to this press conference. Anything of note here that you think we should bring uh attention to? — Handful of things. Uh certainly first on Iran, he is suggesting that talks are going on even though Iran says talks are not going on and that just becomes a a situation of who do you believe and it's hard to answer that question. But um my understanding is there are at least some sort of contacts going on but who that is or who it's with uh seems to be up in the air. It's also

Even know where they are. — Well, I'm I'm not sure that they're physically like that everyone is in one place. Um there are a couple intermediaries who have been part of this process from the from the get-go. Oman being one of them and it and that Iran recognized or acknowledged that Oman was um that they were in touch with Oman about this.

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Topics

  • iran nuclear talks
  • brent crude oil prices
  • apollo macro outlook
  • hyatt marriott earnings leisure travel
  • commercial real estate

Companies and tickers mentioned

  • APO
  • GS
  • H
  • MAR
  • Apollo Global Management
  • Goldman Sachs
  • Hyatt Hotels
  • Marriott International
  • Northwind Group

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