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Anthropic in Talks to Raise $30 Billion at $900 Billion Value | Bloomberg Intelligence
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· · Hosts: Paul Sweeney, Scarlet Fu · Guests: Ed Ludlow, Tarun Raisoni, Ned Segal
Summary
Anthropic is reported to be in early talks to raise at least $30 billion in fresh financing at a valuation of more than $900 billion, a move that would make it the world’s most valuable AI startup and potentially worth more than OpenAI. The host and a guest said the round is not finalized, but the private markets may be offering enough liquidity that Anthropic can delay an IPO and keep funding compute and operations without going public immediately.
The discussion also widened to the AI listing pipeline, with Cerebras and SpaceX viewed as the next major IPOs. The guest said market timing matters, but the bigger issue may be whether the public markets can absorb multiple giant AI listings in one year, especially if SpaceX comes first and Anthropic or OpenAI seek trillion-dollar valuations later. The guest also noted that the charitable or public-benefit structures tied to some of these companies could complicate an eventual IPO.
The second half focused on AI’s physical footprint and San Francisco’s comeback. Tarun Raisoni of Gruve AI argued that AI deployment depends on security, data readiness, governance, and infrastructure, and that the next wave of data-center buildout will follow demand closer to users in tier 1 and tier 2 cities. Ned Segal said San Francisco is easing permitting, cleaning up streets, and trying to attract both startups and large companies through more predictable rules, housing reform, and public-private partnerships.
Key takeaways
- The host said Anthropic’s proposed $30 billion raise at a $900 billion valuation could make it the world’s most valuable AI startup.
- The guest said private capital may let Anthropic postpone an IPO if it can fund compute and growth without public markets.
- The guest said Cerebras could be the biggest IPO of the year so far, but SpaceX may dominate the market’s attention.
- Tarun Raisoni said AI adoption requires security, data, governance, and infrastructure before companies can scale beyond experimentation.
- Ned Segal said San Francisco has passed 20 pieces of legislation to make housing and small-business permitting easier.
Notable quotes
“Anthropic, the AI startup in talks to raise $30 billion. That would give it a $900 billion valuation”
“if it happens you know we're reporting it could close even by the end of May it would be the world's most valuable AI startup”
“the private markets can supply you the liquidity that you need to fund your operations and invest in the compute that you need, no point”
“AI requires a lot of infrastructure the underlying infrastructure is energy data centers lot of compute and the compute requirements are 10 100 thousandx bigger”
“We've passed 20 pieces of legislation to make it easier to build housing and to start or run a small business”
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Listen on demand wherever you get your podcasts or watch us live on YouTube. Just down the street from us uh in our San Francisco bureau is Ed Lello. He's our BTE anchor.
We tried to convince him to come out. I know. But I think he, you know, has to get ready for his own show coming up.
So Ed is joining us right now from our San Francisco bureau. And Ed, um, the big story here in the Bay Area in Silicon Valley is Anthropic, the AI startup in talks to raise $30 billion. That would give it a $900 billion valuation.
I mean, this company just gets bigger and bigger and more and more valuable every time we talk about it. It's it's been a bit of a a roller coaster in the sense that the story started with Anthropic basically rebuffing its investors. Its investors were like kicking down the door saying, "Let us give you some money and and here's how we think you should be valued.
And they just weren't interested for for quite a number of weeks until this week where this is like a real live situation. um they they they kind of accept that the idea of raising 30 to $35 billion makes sense right now through the private markets and you know the discussions are around a $900 billion valuation but probably a fair bit higher than that which if it happens you know we're reporting it could close even by the end of May it would be the world's most valuable AI startup but if you're keeping track it would mean it would be more valuable than open AAI which is a good bit of uh rivalry to to be covering Ed, after the show's over, I'm going to cruise on over to Sand Hill Road, see some of my buddies there.
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Topics
- anthropic fundraising
- ai real estate
- ai agents
- small business impact
- office demand
Companies and tickers mentioned
- INTU
- Anthropic
- Gruve AI
- Intuit
- Tipping Point Community
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