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· · Hosts: Paul Sweeney · Guests: Jody Lurie, Geetha Ranganathan, Pierre Ferragu, Anurag Rana, Mandeep Singh, Jordan Robertson, Jack Wittels, Laura Bliss
Summary
The episode centered on a broad midyear read on consumer and tech markets, with the host tying travel demand, Formula 1 media rights, Tesla deliveries, Oracle’s cloud surge, and Apple’s AI strategy to the same theme: investors are pricing in big shifts, but execution still matters. On travel and leisure, the guest said consumers are still traveling, but many are tweaking plans by choosing cheaper destinations, while hotels continue to benefit from business and conference travel. Casinos and theme parks were framed as more mixed, with regional names facing tougher comparisons and competition from newer attractions and online gaming.
In media, the guest argued Apple’s successful F1 movie could improve the sport’s U.S. bargaining power, but ESPN’s current rights and Formula 1’s asking price could still produce a stalemate. In tech, the discussion was that Tesla’s deliveries were weak overall even if the U.S. was a relative bright spot, while the market may care more about robotaxi progress than near-term auto sales.
Oracle’s $30 billion annual cloud deal was presented as a major validation of its AI infrastructure push, though the guest warned that capex and power constraints could pressure margins and delay execution. Apple’s reported interest in Anthropic or OpenAI for Siri was framed as a sign that Apple has underinvested in AI and wants multiple partners, not dependence on one model provider.
Key takeaways
- The guest said leisure demand is holding up, but consumers may trade down on destinations rather than cancel trips outright.
- Hotels are benefiting from business and conference travel, while airlines and rental cars look softer in the near term, according to the guest.
- Formula 1’s U.S. rights could be priced too high for ESPN, even after Apple’s F1 movie boosts the property’s visibility.
- The guest said Tesla’s deliveries were down 13% year over year, but the stock may trade more on robotaxi news than vehicle sales.
- Oracle’s $30 billion annual cloud deal was presented as evidence that AI workloads are driving massive infrastructure demand, though capex will rise.
- Apple’s Siri AI strategy was framed as a pivot toward outside partners because its in-house LLM effort has lagged peers.
Notable quotes
“consumers are not pulling back on experiences. They're not pulling back on accommodations”
“they might be pulling back on is destination to do a cheaper destination if they need to cut costs”
“We are down 13% year on year. So so we we are facing a situation where Tesla is struggling to sell cars”
“we think this is part of the Stargate contract. This is something that's going to flow from OpenAI”
How the episode opens
Bloomberg Audio Studios podcasts radio news. This is Bloomberg Intelligence with Paul Sweeney. The real out our performance has been the US corporate high yield.
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Are people just too exuberant out there? Bloomberg Intelligence with Paul Sweeney on Bloomberg Radio, YouTube, and Bloomberg Originals. On today's Bloomberg Intelligence Show, we dig inside the big business stories impacting Wall Street and the global markets.
Each and every week, we provide in-depth research and data on some of the 2,000 companies and 130 industries our analysts cover worldwide. Today, we'll look at Oracle signing a cloud deal with $30 billion a year. Plus, later on, a big take story on the Treasury Department's cyber security vulnerabilities.
But first, we begin with an outlook into travel and leisure for the second half of 2025. According to a BI US travel survey, tariffs, inflation, and geopolitics could deter consumers from spending money on hotels and flights. Jod Luri, Bloomberg intelligence analyst, breaks it down.
For a large part, the companies have been doing pretty well. And from a credit perspective, we've seen uh pretty decent total returns for the indices and and that's compared to high yield and investment grade as a total. You know, we've seen that that for discretionary that these leisure related companies have actually been doing better than most of discretionary.
And it makes sense because other parts of discretionary such as retail are much more sensitive to, you know, these tariffs and trade talks that are really affecting a lot of our outlook.
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Topics
- travel leisure outlook
- media rights and film markets
- cloud services revenue
- ai for siri
- us cybersecurity hacks
Companies and tickers mentioned
- ORCL
- AAPL
- TSLA
- Oracle
- Apple
- Tesla
- New Street Research
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