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China Orders Companies to Stop Buying Nvidia AI Chip | Bloomberg Intelligence
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· · 19 min · Hosts: Paul Sweeney, Alexis Christoforous · Guests: Mandeep Singh, Diana Rosero Pena, Matthew Schettenhelm
Summary
China’s reported order for companies to stop buying Nvidia’s RTX Pro 6000D was framed as a geopolitical move more than an immediate earnings shock. Mandeep Singh said Nvidia had already largely de-risked China from its second-quarter guide, but he warned that losing access to a China GPU market he put at almost $50 billion and growing at nearly 50% would matter over time, especially because large LLM developers in the U.S. and China rely on Nvidia chips for training.
The discussion then turned to TikTok, where Matthew Schettenhelm said the U.S.-China framework could finally produce a divestiture after repeated deadline extensions. He estimated TikTok’s U.S. assets at roughly 40 to 50 billion and said Oracle looks essential because it already runs the backend infrastructure. He also stressed that the hardest issue is the algorithm, since Congress required no operational relationship with ByteDance, even if a licensing workaround emerges.
Diana Rosero Pena said General Mills posted a solid but unspectacular quarter, with North America sales pressured by 4% organic volume declines as consumers kept trading down. She said the company is leaning on cost savings, marketing, and innovation rather than major price increases, while private-label brands continue taking share from national brands.
Key takeaways
- Mandeep Singh said Nvidia’s China exposure was already mostly excluded from guidance, but a long-term shutdown would still matter because the China GPU market is about $50 billion and growing fast.
- Schettenhelm said TikTok’s U.S. assets could be worth 40 to 50 billion, with Oracle likely involved because it already operates key infrastructure.
- Schettenhelm said the biggest regulatory risk is the algorithm, because Congress barred an operational relationship with ByteDance.
- Diana Rosero Pena said General Mills saw 4% organic volume declines in North America as consumers traded down.
- Rosero Pena said General Mills is relying on cost savings, marketing and innovation, not big price hikes, to defend volume.
Notable quotes
“China reportedly telling its tech companies, "Stop buying Nvidia's AI chips." And you know what? Even cancel your existing orders”
“the China revenue may not materialize even though they said it could be 2 to 5 billion, but uh the guide was almost derisked”
“the China uh GPU market is almost $50 billion addressable market and it's growing at almost 50% plus growth rate”
“it would be somewhere in that vicinity. But uh with that being said, uh you know, given the geopolitical aspects involved in this deal, Oracle seems to be the one entity”
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Eastern on Apple CarPlay and Android Auto with the Bloomberg Business App. Listen on demand wherever you get your podcasts or watch us live on YouTube. China reportedly telling its tech companies, "Stop buying Nvidia's AI chips.
And you know what? Even cancel your existing orders. Here to uh talk about it is Mandep Singh, Bloomberg Intelligence, global head of technology research joining us here in our New York studio.
Mandep, thanks for being here. Just how big a blow is this to Nvidia at this moment in time given how much of its business is tied to China? Well, if you go back to the guide that Nvidia gave uh during their second quarter earnings, uh they sort of anticipated this that a lot of the China revenue may not materialize even though they said it could be 2 to 5 billion, but uh the guide was almost derisked that they didn't include any of that.
So from that perspective, it's not that big of a deal and I think the stock reaction validates that. With that being said, they also said that the China uh GPU market is almost $50 billion addressable market and it's growing at almost 50% plus growth rate. So when you factor in you know the multi-year investment cycle we are in and not being able to sell into China would be a big uh kind of factor in terms of
If it continues — If it continues. And uh look, I I think when I look at the biggest large language model companies, it's either in the US or in China. And those are the companies that need the Nvidia chips for training their models.
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Topics
- china chip restrictions
- nvidia ai chips
- consumer staples earnings
- general mills outlook
- tiktok us operations deal
Companies and tickers mentioned
- NVDA
- BABA
- GIS
- ORCL
- Nvidia
- Alibaba Group Holding
- ByteDance
- General Mills
- TikTok
- Oracle
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