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Dell Hikes Estimates for Next Four Years on Strong AI Demand | Bloomberg Intelligence

Bloomberg Intelligence · · Hosts: Paul Sweeney, Scarlet Fu · Guests: Ed Ludlow, Nathan Naidu, Kenneth Shea, Anurag Rana

Dell Hikes Estimates for Next Four Years on Strong AI Demand | Bloomberg Intelligence – Bloomberg Intelligence

Summary

Dell told investors its AI server business is becoming a much bigger growth engine, and the hosts framed the update as a reset of Dell’s role in the AI buildout. A guest said Dell expects more of the infrastructure spend to shift toward on-premises deployments, arguing that 85% of enterprises will ultimately have some form of on-prem footprint. Dell also lifted its long-term outlook through 2030, with top-line growth expected at 7% to 9% and adjusted EPS growth around 15%, helped by stronger margins and a steadier core PC business.

AppLovin drew a different kind of attention after reports that the SEC is probing its data-collection practices. An analyst said the market is focused less on the announced probe than on a possible class action lawsuit, which could be more costly if it reaches trial. He noted that AppLovin generates about $2 billion in annual free cash flow, making a potential SEC fine less material, while the legal case could be the bigger financial risk.

Constellation Brands faced a softer consumer backdrop, with beer volume pressure tied to a slow beer market, tariffs, and changing drinking habits among younger consumers. An analyst said cannabis substitution, GLP-1 use, and moderation trends are chipping away at demand, even as the company pushes non-alcoholic and lower-calorie products and still has strong cash flow.

IBM’s latest AI partnership with Anthropic was presented as another sign that the company is leaning into an open ecosystem. A guest said IBM is using Anthropic’s Claude models to help enterprise customers add AI to legacy systems, while IBM’s consulting base gives Anthropic access to large corporate accounts.

Key takeaways

  • Dell expects the AI server business to improve margins and lifted its long-term outlook to 7% to 9% revenue growth and about 15% adjusted EPS growth through 2030.
  • A guest said Dell’s case is that 85% of enterprises will eventually have some kind of on-prem footprint, which supports demand for its servers.
  • AppLovin’s bigger risk may be the potential class action lawsuit, which an analyst said could be a $750 million issue if it goes to trial.
  • Constellation Brands is fighting weak beer trends as younger consumers shift toward cocktails, cannabis and lower-calorie drinks, but the company’s cash flow still supports buybacks and dividends.
  • IBM’s Anthropic deal reflects IBM’s strategy of pairing its consulting reach with outside AI models to sell enterprise automation tools.

Notable quotes

“it's kind of like a reset on on Dell's position in the AI market”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Intelligence at 1:21

“And the the main argument that they're making is that on premises part I was talking about”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Intelligence at 3:28

“through 2030 they've basically almost doubled their forecast for the top and bottom line five to uh 7 to 9% topline growth and adjusted EPS growth of around 15%”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Intelligence at 4:24

“the bigger risk that we're watching here is definitely that potential class action lawsuit”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Intelligence at 10:03

“more than half have substituted for alcohol at least once a week”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Intelligence at 17:18

How the episode opens

Bloomberg Audio Studios podcasts, radio, news. You're listening to the Bloomberg Intelligence Podcast. Catch us live weekdays at 10 a.m. Eastern — On Apple CarPlay and Android Auto with the Bloomberg Business App. — Listen on demand wherever you get your podcasts or watch us live on YouTube. Dell, let's dig a little deeper into this uh guidance that the company offered. I'd say it's more than guidance, is it?

Yeah, it's kind of a I don't know kind of a long-term vision a little bit of where the business is going.

Exactly. And you know, in the tech industry to be able to kind of project out that far is pretty notable. Let's bring in Ed Ledllo who is our BTE co-anchor based in San Francisco.

And Ed, one thing that I noticed about uh Dell is that this is another legacy tech company that's getting a big boost here from the whole AI play. And Dell is doing that through its AI servers, but it still has another part of its conventional business that is um holding up at least.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, uh you guys make really good points about um is this guidance or more? I it's kind of like a reset on on Dell's position in the AI market.

It's another example of like, well, if we're all sort of very hyped up about data center builds out and Nvidia's getting all of this love and we're very focused on energy, then why do we not talk more about Dell? If you build a data center, whether that is hypers scale or it's an on premises smaller facility that any given sort of software company operates themselves, Dell is likely to play a part. You know, they assemble servers.

That needs to happen.

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Topics

  • ai demand
  • dell estimates
  • sec applovin probe
  • consumer earnings
  • ibm anthropic integration

Companies and tickers mentioned

  • DELL
  • APP
  • STZ
  • IBM
  • Dell Technologies
  • AppLovin
  • Constellation Brands
  • IBM
  • Anthropic

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