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Oil Dips in Thin Post-Christmas Trade Amid Ukraine Talk Progress | Bloomberg Intelligence
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· · Hosts: Paul Sweeney, Caroline Hyde · Guests: Ellen Wald, Mishel Alon, Carol Pepper
Summary
Oil traded lower in thin post-Christmas conditions as the host and a guest argued that year-end illiquidity was amplifying a bigger market shift: fading hopes for a quick Russia-Ukraine settlement and rising attention on how Venezuelan barrels might be pulled into the formal system. The guest said those developments could add supply, pressure prices, and make 2026 a year when the U.S. oil outlook matters more than short-term holiday trading.
The discussion also focused on China, which buys large amounts of Russian and Venezuelan crude. The guest said China has benefited from deep discounts on sanctioned oil, but could face higher prices if more of that supply moves into regular channels.
Later, a guest discussed the holiday consumer, saying shoppers were more intentional, brand-selective, and increasingly driven by digital discovery and subscriptions. A third guest then argued that family offices are entering 2026 with dry powder, expecting strong markets, more AI and data-center opportunities, and only limited macro disruption from politics.
Key takeaways
- The guest said thin year-end trading and weaker expectations for an immediate Russia-Ukraine deal are helping keep Brent near $61 and WTI near $57.
- The guest argued that moving sanctioned Venezuelan crude into regular supply could push prices lower, even if it is not yet fully settled.
- The guest said China may pay more for oil in 2026 if discounted sanctioned barrels become less accessible.
- The consumer guest said holiday shoppers were more intent-driven, favoring trusted brands, subscriptions, and social shopping channels like TikTok Shop.
- The markets guest said family offices are ready to deploy dry powder in 2026, with AI data centers and rare earths seen as major themes.
Notable quotes
“there were incredible hopes that um we might see a resolution to the Russia Ukraine uh conflict”
“if some of this supply that they've been buying off the black market gets transitioned into the the regular uh you know oil market”
“China has really been kind of getting away with an incredible amount of very lowcost supply”
“consumers were looking for trusted brands. Uh they were looking for creative toys and they were looking for subscriptions that remove friction”
“family offices are excited about this strong rally and although some of them still sat a bit on the sidelines during 25”
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We want to check in with Ellen Walden. uh she is uh joining us here. Uh Ellen, you know, a lot of going on in the geopolitical markets impacting the global crude market, but we still got crude at low levels. Brent crude 61 bucks, WTI $57 here. What's your view of the supply and demand out there for global crude?
Yeah, I think uh a lot of what we're seeing right now is uh first of all, kind of end of year, not a lot of trading going on in general. um you know not a lot of of um people you know working and and and trading a whole lot. But also I do think that we are actually seeing a pullback because earlier um this month there were incredible hopes that um we might see a resolution to the Russia Ukraine uh conflict and that would brought a lot of um oil back on the market.
I think we're kind of seeing uh kind of a pullback from that. People are realizing like that's that's not actually going to happen that that soon. Uh I also think that um we're also seeing a little bit of a pullback from a slight fear of a supply disruption regarding Venezuela.
It's pretty clear that uh the only supply disruption that's going on is Venezuela's supply is not going to reach the rest of the world. Um but the issue there is that once the the US has commandeered this crude and President Trump has said outright that he plans to just you know take the crude put it into US uh supplies put it into the SPR and whatnot and that actually introduces more supply into the system because this was crude oil that was sanctioned was kind of being bought on the black market but now it's being introduced uh onto into the the larger supply and so that's going to push prices down believe it or not.
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Topics
- oil prices
- ukraine peace talks
- russian oil supply
- consumer sentiment
- oversupply
Companies and tickers mentioned
- Atlantic Council
- Verve
- Pepper International
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