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Samsung’s Record Profit Fails to Impress After AI Chip Rally | Bloomberg Intelligence
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· · 18 min · Hosts: Paul Sweeney, Scarlet Fu, Stacey Vanek Smith · Guests: Ed Ludlow, Ryan Vlastelica, Gautam Mukunda
Summary
Samsung’s quarterly results looked strong on paper, with revenue more than doubling and profit surging 19-fold, but the market treated the print as a reason to take profits after a near-150% run-up. The discussion centered on whether the selloff reflected real deterioration or just a pause in an overheated AI trade. The guest argued that memory markets remain tight, with DRAM and NAND supply still constrained, but that Samsung’s move was mainly a stock story rather than a fundamental change.
The conversation then broadened to the AI capex cycle and the debt market. Amazon’s plan to raise at least $25 billion in U.S. dollar bonds was presented as a straightforward way to fund rapidly rising data-center spending, which is being pushed higher by inflation in construction, labor, and memory chips. The guest said Amazon’s balance sheet and AWS franchise make the debt raise easier than it would be for weaker companies, and contrasted that with Oracle, where a move to negative free cash flow hit sentiment much harder.
A separate segment focused on the market rotation away from the Mag 7 and toward semiconductor beneficiaries such as Micron, SanDisk, Western Digital, Seagate, and other memory-related names. The analyst said investors are questioning the returns on massive infrastructure spending and are preferring the companies supplying the bottlenecks in the AI buildout. The final discussion on OpenAI was skeptical of Sam Altman’s idea of giving the U.S. government a 5% stake, with the guest calling it a Trojan horse that could create political dependence and global business risks.
Key takeaways
- The guest said Samsung’s results were strong, but the stock sold off because the market had already priced in a huge AI-driven rally.
- The guest said memory supply remains tight in DRAM and NAND, but the move in Samsung was more about valuation and positioning than fundamentals.
- The guest said Amazon’s $25 billion bond sale fits a rising AI capex bill that could push full-year spending from $200 billion to $300 billion in 2027.
- The analyst said investors are rotating away from the Mag 7 and toward memory and storage names that benefit directly from AI infrastructure spending.
- The guest said OpenAI’s proposed 5% government stake would be politically dangerous and should be replaced by taxing AI profits instead.
Notable quotes
“Samsung reported some numbers. I don't know, to my untrained eye, they looked good”
“you know, revenue uh more than doubled, profit 19fold”
“Nothing in the memory markets change from when you and I went to bed last night”
“Amazon's a really simple story it capex is growing at an enormous rate much faster faster than revenue is growing”
“I think it's a bit of a Trojan horse, Paul”
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Looking at a lot of tech news today. I'm going to start with just Samsung. I'm looking at the S&P.
I'm the NASDAQ. We're off, you know, 1 and a half% here. Uh the socks index, uh trading off today.
Samsung reported some numbers. I don't know, to my untrained eye, they looked good. I don't know, but apparently the market's not digging it.
So, let me go to the guy who does this stuff for a living, Ed Lllo, B Tech co-anchor. Talk to us about Samsung and what the spillover may be for the broader tech market.
Well, there is a lot of spillover, right? There's a lot of downward pressure on chip stocks in particular, but genuine generally the AI trade in the US. You are right, numbers good. you know, revenue uh more than doubled, profit 19fold. And what's so interesting about it is fundamentally um very deliberate choice of word. Nothing in the memory markets change from when you and I went to bed last night. You know, it
There is still tight supply pricing of DRAM and NAND, the key markets for memory is going up and and Samsung has no line of sight to when that improves. It's really a stock story where like Samsung was a stock that was up 150% yesterday going into it and I think everyone's just taking a pause and saying,
You know, this isn't the right trade right now. You know, let's do something different. — It seems like a lot of AI and tech stocks are having sell-offs this morning and like you say, there doesn't seem to be a real reason behind it.
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Topics
- ai chip rally
- samsung earnings
- amazon ai infrastructure debt
- memory chip demand
- openai government stake
Companies and tickers mentioned
- AMZN
- MU
- SNDK
- Samsung Electronics Co.
- Amazon.com Inc.
- Micron Technology Inc.
- Sandisk Corp.
- OpenAI
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