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Tesla Plunges Most in a Year on Investor Angst Over AI Spending | Bloomberg Intelligence
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· · 21 min · Hosts: Paul Sweeney, Scarlet Fu · Guests: Kevin Tynan, Mandeep Singh, Geetha Ranganathan, Madison Muller
Summary
Tesla’s quarter reinforced a tension between its legacy auto business and Elon Musk’s push toward AI and robotics. The guest said the company is still moving volume, but mix has deteriorated and margins are under pressure, making a lower-priced EV harder to justify when material, input and production costs are rising. He argued Tesla is no longer behaving like a traditional automaker, citing the end of Model S and Model X production and a narrower lineup centered on Y, 3 and Cybertruck. He also said the idea that the company can win a global EV export race is unrealistic because China controls more of the supply chain and benefits from subsidies.
The discussion of Alphabet focused on AI infrastructure spending rather than core search. The guest said the company is renting compute from third parties, raised its 2026 capex outlook by $10 billion to $15 billion at the midpoint, and signaled a significant increase again in 2027. He said negative free cash flow of $5.9 billion in the quarter shows how quickly capex is swallowing cash, even as cloud revenue grew 82%.
Comcast’s main issue remained broadband decline, with the guest describing the business as one of managing deterioration while competition from fiber, fixed wireless and Starlink intensifies. He said the planned NBCUniversal and Sky separation could re-rate the media assets. On Eli Lilly, the guest said retatrutide is on track for an FDA filing in first quarter 2027 and could expand the obesity market further, though insurance coverage and out-of-pocket costs still limit adoption.
Key takeaways
- The guest said Tesla’s pricing and margin pressure make a cheaper $25,000 EV less attractive, not more, because higher costs would compound the problem.
- The guest argued Tesla is increasingly a mix-and-price story rather than a broad auto strategy, with Model S and Model X production already ceased.
- The guest said Alphabet’s AI buildout is now so large that 2026 capex is guided roughly $10 billion to $15 billion higher and 2027 spending should rise significantly again.
- The guest said Alphabet posted negative free cash flow of $5.9 billion as cloud revenue jumped 82%, showing AI infrastructure is consuming cash even in a strong quarter.
- The guest said Comcast’s broadband base keeps shrinking under pressure from fiber, fixed wireless and Starlink, making the core business a managed decline story.
- The guest said Lilly’s retatrutide could strengthen the obesity franchise, but insurance coverage and affordability still limit how many patients can access GLP-1 drugs.
Notable quotes
“you saw mix deteriorate, right? And so margins compress. So selling more things at lower margin is not necessarily the way”
“if you're having problems with margins and mix, the answer is not a more affordable vehicle, right”
“they talked about how supply constraints remain when it comes to AI data center capacity”
“There ain't no free cash flow left for this company which was a free cash flow juggernaut”
“just the story doesn't get any better. Now, Comcast, what they've done is they have altered their go to go to market strategy”
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Tesla reported some numbers last night that profit tumbled despite strong electric vehicle deliveries in the most recent quarter and that's putting pressure on Elon Musk's plan to refocus the company on artificial intelligence and robots. Kevin China joins us here, director of research for the Presidio Group. He's been following the auto industry for decades here.
Kevin, I'm sure I'm not sure Tesla's even an auto company anymore. How are you viewing what you heard last night from Elon and company?
Yeah, look, there was a lot of uh automotive type results in in that release, right? And and you talked about it. Volume that you buy is not necessarily demand, right?
Like that's spend and you saw mix deteriorate, right? And so margins compress. So selling more things at lower margin is not necessarily the way, although it is common in the auto industry for manufacturers, uh you know, over the decades and that's how that happens.
Best thing though about that is that you did not see them compress margins and not get the volume. At least they got the volume, but it winds up doing more harm than good to your pricing and your profit dynamics when that happens though.
Kevin, Tesla has been promising for years a cheap or affordable EV, a lower cost EV. Does that even matter to the company? Is that a priority at this point? I mean, it feels like the company has so deemphasized its traditional auto business that um people don't care about it and I I wonder if the company cares about it.
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Topics
- tesla earnings
- ai spending
- alphabet capex
- comcast media spin-off
- eli lilly obesity drug trials
Companies and tickers mentioned
- TSLA
- GOOGL
- GOOG
- CMCSA
- LLY
- Tesla
- Alphabet
- Comcast
- Eli Lilly & Co.
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