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Trump Moves to Have Tech Giants Pay for Surging Power Costs | Bloomberg Intelligence
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· · 22 min · Hosts: Scarlet Fu, Alexandra Semenova, John Tucker · Guests: Mandeep Singh, Lee Klaskow, Rania Sedhom, Michael Halen
Summary
Pressure is building on big tech to help fund the power system needed for AI. The tech analyst said gigawatt-scale data centers are forcing a reckoning with a grid that is 70 to 80 years old, and that AI workloads can require about 10 times more power than today’s facilities. He argued that higher electricity costs are already flowing through to consumers and that the economics of AI infrastructure will squeeze hyperscaler margins, with AI workloads running at sub-50% gross margins versus roughly 65% to 70% for public cloud and 80% to 90% for on-premise software.
On the transport side, JB Hunt reported revenue below estimates, but the analyst said the print was better than it looked because earnings beat consensus and key businesses such as intermodal, truckload, and final mile performed well. He said management sounded cautious about the freight recovery, calling the market fragile, but cost cuts and improving truckload pricing could help margins if the spot market tightens.
The discussion also covered Saks Global’s Chapter 11 filing and the consumer side of the economy. The legal and retail commentary stressed vendor payment problems, weak communication, and the risk that the Saks-Neiman Marcus combination was strained from the start. A restaurant analyst said U.S. same-store sales should improve in 1H 2026, helped by cheaper gasoline, easier comparisons, and tax relief, with McDonald’s, Taco Bell, Cava, and Wingstop seen as likely beneficiaries.
Key takeaways
- The tech analyst said AI data centers need roughly 10 times more power, making electricity pricing and grid capacity a growing constraint for hyperscalers.
- The analyst said AI workloads are a sub-50% gross-margin business, so Microsoft, Amazon, and Google likely face margin pressure even if demand stays strong.
- JB Hunt’s revenue missed estimates, but the transport analyst said earnings beat consensus and cost cuts could support margins if freight pricing improves.
- The analyst said Saks Global’s bankruptcy shows how unpaid vendors and weak communication can accelerate a luxury retailer’s decline.
- The restaurant analyst expects U.S. same-store sales to accelerate in 1H 2026, with lower gas prices and tax relief helping McDonald’s, Taco Bell, Cava, and Wingstop.
Notable quotes
“these are 50 to 100 megawatt data centers, we are already talking about power requirements going 10x to 1 gawatt”
“AI data centers are a much lower gross margin business for hyperscalers”
“A lot of the brands that worked with it are no longer working with it, which also, you know, precipitated its its decline”
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Eastern on Apple CarPlay and Android Auto with the Bloomberg Business App. Listen on demand wherever you get your podcasts or watch us live on YouTube. Mandep Singh is here with us.
He's the global tech research head. and Mandy, this idea of big tech being called upon to pay for their own uh rising energy costs. Um, as Bailey pointed out, this is all through a non-binding statement of principles.
He pointed out the winners and losers on the utility side. What does this mean for big tech? I mean, can any of them come out of this ahead with something like uh this kind of pressure?
Well, right now, I think everyone is looking at gigawatt data centers, right? And when you think about what is existing in terms of AI data centers, these are 50 to 100 megawatt data centers, we are already talking about power requirements going 10x to 1 gawatt
And and so how will a 70 to 80 year old grid supply electricity which is 10 times more than what these data centers already uh consume. And so from that perspective, it is a very topical question that needs to be asked. Where are you getting the 10 times power that you need to run your 1 gawatt data center?
And I think that's the realization that's coming in now. It's being reflected in the prices that consumers have to pay because prices have gone up for electricity. But I mean the computing that AI does requires 10 times more power.
That's the realization. And uh I think everything will follow through. Now
Mandep, is there a sense that big tech leaders might be open to working with the White House on this to kind of be in Trump's favor here?
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Topics
- tech power costs
- electricity auction policy
- freight demand weakness
- retail bankruptcy
- restaurant sales outlook
Companies and tickers mentioned
- JBHT
- JB Hunt Transport Services
- Saks Global Enterprises
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