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Bloomberg Money: Stock Valuations Should Worry Investors | Bloomberg Surveillance
Summary
The episode centered on why investors should be more cautious about equity valuations even as the market keeps rewarding AI and large-cap growth. Abby Joseph Cohen argued that when stocks are “priced to perfection,” investors need to be concerned and careful, especially because corporate profitability, balance sheets and job creation still matter. She said the economy is not creating sufficient jobs and warned that headline valuation strength can obscure underlying weakness.
Cohen also pushed back on the idea that today’s data perfectly capture the economy. She said GDP and other statistics are samples that can mislead investors if they overweight older industries and miss faster-growing sectors. That theme carried into the discussion of the Fed, where she emphasized the need for better data quality and more resources for the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Dan Skelly of Morgan Stanley took a more constructive view on equities, arguing that the Mag 7 still looks attractive after its pullback, but he urged diversification. He said investors should add financials, healthcare, international equities and hedges, and he framed the current environment as a “remarkable rally in AI capex winners” against an “unremarkable economy.” He also said the market has largely treated policy shocks as temporary pop-up ads.
Key takeaways
- The guest Abby Joseph Cohen said valuations “basically say everything's fabulous,” which is exactly when investors should be concerned and careful.
- Cohen argued that weak job creation and stretched prices are more important warning signs than headline market strength.
- Cohen said economic data can lag reality because GDP and labor statistics are samples that may miss newer, faster-growing parts of the economy.
- Dan Skelly said the Mag 7 still looks attractive after the selloff, but investors should rebalance into financials, healthcare and international stocks.
- Skelly said the market is still being driven by AI capex winners, while policy shocks and geopolitical headlines have mostly acted like temporary “pop-up ads.”
Notable quotes
“Right now the valuations basically say everything's fabulous and when things are priced to perfection, that's when investors need to be concerned and careful”
“there are some things that are standard and basic, including corporate profitability, corporate balance sheets, and the underlying strength of an economy”
“we're working off of samples. And if those samples are based upon the companies and industries that used to be important rather than the ones that are important or will become important, we mislead ourselves”
“We think today if we were to draw a historical reference looks a lot like the first half of 1995”
“the market's been treating policy shocks as pop-up ads”
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And as always, on the Bloomberg terminal and the Bloomberg business app, Roma Bostic with us here, of course, as he gets ready to exit out June, if you will. We're almost done with the second quarter. And David Guro with us as well, getting ready, of course, for Bloomberg uh this week.
And David, it's hidden now and it's not in the zeit I guess, but I think it's an editorial in the Washington Post which is in your wheelhouse. Elizabeth Warren is upset about social security, but the senator from Ohio is as well. How do you get a Republican and a Democrat on the same page on social security?
It's been a banner week for bipartisanship until the housing bill fell apart. But we saw kind of moves in that direction that we haven't seen in a long time. met Bernie Moreno, former car salesman, now senator from Ohio, and she coming together on this proposal to eliminate the cap on payroll taxes that go toward
Raise the taxes on a rich people. — Raise taxes on the rich people. Look, this is a roing conversation not just between those two lawmakers, but a broader group of them, some suggest that could be raised higher. They're suggesting it could be eliminated here. But the argument that's advanced in that piece that you mentioned in the the Washington Post by the editorial board is in doing this uh you don't stand to cure the problem with social security.
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Topics
- stock valuations
- investor concerns
- wealth management
- market outlook
- financial markets
Companies and tickers mentioned
- GS
- MS
- Goldman Sachs
- Morgan Stanley
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