Episode summary
Confidence in Dollar-Based Assets Waning, Says Rebecca Patterson
Bloomberg Surveillance
· · 9 min · Guests: Rebecca Patterson
Summary
Rebecca Patterson argues that the market reaction to the Greenland headlines was too short-lived to matter; the real story is a slow erosion of confidence in dollar-based assets. She says the shift will play out over years, not days, and points to Sweden’s largest private pension fund trimming Treasury holdings and Denmark moving away from Treasuries as early signs of broader diversification away from the U.S.
On the dollar, she says the currency is not in immediate danger because strong U.S. growth, sticky inflation and fewer expected Fed cuts still support it. Even so, she expects the dollar could be stable or slightly lower this year as investors keep reducing hedges and looking for alternatives.
Gold is the clearest beneficiary, in her view, because central banks continue to diversify into liquid non-dollar assets. She also says U.S. Treasuries still diversify portfolios, but not as reliably as in past decades, which helps explain interest in gold, alternatives, and foreign bond markets. She adds that Japan matters because global bond markets are now tightly linked, so stress there can spill into U.S. Treasuries.
Key takeaways
- Rebecca Patterson says confidence in dollar-based assets is eroding slowly over years, not in a one-day market move.
- She expects the dollar to be stable or slightly lower this year because U.S. growth and sticky inflation limit Fed easing.
- Patterson says gold is the clearest diversification trade, supported by ongoing central bank buying.
- She argues Treasuries still diversify portfolios, but less effectively than they did for decades.
- Patterson says Japan’s bond market matters for U.S. Treasuries because global bond markets are now tightly integrated.
Notable quotes
“It's time frame. What we're seeing is a slow erosion of confidence in dollar based assets”
“This is something that will play out over years, not a day or a week or a month, but it's happening”
“that to me, that's the most obvious reflection of the diversification trade that's taking place”
“while Treasuries, U.S. government bonds still act as a diversifier in a portfolio, you can't expect them to work as effectively as they have for the last several decades”
How the episode opens
I think the important thing about the dollar's time frame and degree, you know, a lot of the media coverage this week with the threats of possible military intervention to acquire Greenland against its will and then the backing off it, you saw some market reaction, but it was really just a one day sell America and everyone saying, well, gosh, no one sold Treasuries, everything's fine. It's all hype. And like, no, it's not.
It's time frame. What we're seeing is a slow erosion of confidence in dollar based assets. This is something that will play out over years, not a day or a week or a month, but it's happening.
We saw news this week that Sweden's largest private pension fund is reducing significantly its Treasury holdings. And yes, Denmark is not a large country, but they're getting rid of their treasuries. There's more to come.
I mean, how can you just love having Rebecca and can you just see the poor soul who had three martinis in the city and looked and goes back to the desk and a major break calls up on the phone? He goes celibate. Exactly.
So how do we I mean, what does that mean for the dollar here? We had the dollar sell off early last year. Yep.
Then it got stabilized and actually had a decent second half of the year here. Is the dollar still at risk, do you think? Modest share.
So, you know, there are a lot of factors that come together that drive currency markets. Part of it is cross-border capital and trade flows. Part of it is expectations for interest rates to the relative yield of a currency.
What helped the dollar in part in the second half of last year, we didn't see as much hedging action.
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Topics
- dollar-based assets demand
- geopolitical risk
- tariffs and retaliation
- us rates outlook
- ai megacap stocks
Companies and tickers mentioned
- FOX
- FOXA
- NVDA
- JPM
- Council on Foreign Relations
- Bridgewater Associates
- Fox Corporation
- Nvidia
- eToro
- JPMorgan Chase & Co.
- Forex.com
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