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Markets and Geopolitical Swings | Bloomberg Surveillance

Bloomberg Surveillance · · 32 min · Hosts: Tom Keene, Paul Sweeney, Lisa Mateo, Michael Barr · Guests: Sarah Hunt, Fatima Boolani, Effram Kaplan, Mark McCormick

Markets and Geopolitical Swings | Bloomberg Surveillance – Bloomberg Surveillance

Summary

Geopolitical swings, firmer oil, and a more hawkish Fed backdrop pushed the conversation toward a more volatile summer for markets. A guest strategist argued that the latest jump in energy prices complicates the case for a calm second half, even as she still expects continued earnings strength and prefers the short end of the Treasury curve. She also said investors are likely to keep debating whether the big AI winners remain the chip stocks or rotate into software and other lagging parts of tech.

The discussion on software split the sector into application names and infrastructure software. The guest said investors should focus on the companies enabling AI systems, citing data observability and network infrastructure names as the most direct beneficiaries. She argued that the market is underestimating how much operational complexity AI introduces, which should support cybersecurity, monitoring, and cloud infrastructure vendors.

Another guest made the case that the real buildout story is in the Midwest, especially Ohio, where data centers, power, water, and waste systems are drawing capital. He said infrastructure offers steadier, downside-protected returns than the most crowded AI trades, while environmental services remain constrained by permitting issues. A currency strategist then said the dollar is strengthening on relative U.S. growth, higher rates, and tighter global liquidity, with DXY potentially reaching 103 and dollar-yen testing 165.

Key takeaways

  • The market strategist said higher oil prices and geopolitical stress make the summer outlook more volatile and could alter the Fed’s wait-and-see stance.
  • She expects second-quarter earnings to remain strong, with investors already looking through it toward the second half of 2026.
  • The software strategist said the market is favoring infrastructure software such as Datadog and Cloudflare over application names because they are closer to the AI buildout.
  • The infrastructure executive said capital is flowing to power, water, waste, and data center projects because they offer steadier risk-reward than crowded tech trades.
  • The FX strategist said the dollar move is being driven by U.S. growth, higher rates, and stronger U.S. equities, with DXY targeted around 103 and dollar-yen around 160 to 165.

Notable quotes

“I think that this does you add this to the AI story and all of a sudden I think you have a more stormy summer”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Surveillance at 0:59

“we're going to see a lot of changes. I think we're going to see a lot of restructuring”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Surveillance at 5:08

“the infrastructure software names are generally going to be beneficiaries of uh the computing shift”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Surveillance at 22:54

“I think this is dollar strength”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Surveillance at 34:31

How the episode opens

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Eastern on Apple CarPlay or Android Auto with the Bloomberg Business App. Listen on demand wherever you get your podcasts or watch us live on YouTube. And right now we're going to slide in quick quick to Sarah Hunt, chief market strategist, Alpine Saxon uh Woods is as well.

I guess we're distant from June 30 like 9 or 10 days. Do you rewrite your midyear review?

Well, you refinalize or you can add a cotil to your uh 20 to your midyear review. I think that um there was obviously a feeling and you can see where oil how fast it moved this morning versus yesterday because even yesterday was up a little bit but not it wasn't it wasn't moving as much. I think that this does you add this to the AI story and all of a sudden I think you have a more stormy summer than we were looking at even a week and a half ago.

So, I think it does um it makes a difference because all of these things play into how portfolios are going to roll out and the expectation was the Fed now had some cover to say we can wait and see. And now with this moving around that might change that math as well.

So, how are we thinking about I guess the AI trade in general here? I mean I you own the chips. Okay, I get that. What else are you doing here with this with your AI trade these days? — Well, it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

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Topics

  • geopolitical swings
  • market gyrations
  • tech selloff
  • saas outlook
  • infrastructure reinvestment

Companies and tickers mentioned

  • C
  • BMO
  • Alpine Saxon Woods
  • Citi
  • BMO Capital Markets

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