Episode summary
Stocks, Bonds Fall as CPI Data Fuel Fed-Hike Bets | Bloomberg Surveillance
Bloomberg Surveillance
· · 31 min · Hosts: Tom Keene, Paul Sweeney, Lisa Mateo, Michael Barr · Guests: Ajay Rajadhyaksha, Phil Neuhart, Tiffany Wilding, Cameron Dawson, Elias Griepentrog
Summary
The discussion centered on a hotter-than-expected inflation print, the market’s renewed Fed-hike bets, and what that means for stocks, bonds, and the AI trade. The host and guests argued that inflation is broadening beyond a narrow set of categories, with higher energy, diesel, shipping, and services prices feeding concerns that the Fed may need to stay tighter for longer. One guest said the print supports talk of a possible 50 basis point hike in December, while another argued the Fed is not as far behind the curve as it was in 2022.
The panel also split the market into two stories: strong earnings versus strain on lower-income consumers. One guest said nominal GDP growth is still supporting revenues and S&P 500 earnings, but that household gains have been concentrated among wealthier consumers. Another said investors are increasingly watching banks as a real-time gauge of whether AI financing risks stay contained or spill into broader credit conditions.
A second major theme was hyperscaler and AI capex funding. The guests said off-balance-sheet financing could eventually create oversupply in compute, even if near-term demand remains strong. In fixed income, the case was that higher yields reflect a stronger economy and stickier inflation more than fiscal fear, with the 10-year and the Treasury market still absorbing heavy supply.
Key takeaways
- The guests said the CPI data broadened Fed tightening risk, with one economist putting a 50 basis point December hike on the table.
- One analyst argued that nominal GDP near 6% to 7% is still lifting revenues and helping S&P 500 earnings grow north of 30%.
- The panel said lower-income consumers are being hit by inflation even as higher-income households still benefit from equity and housing wealth.
- A guest from Barclays said the biggest long-run risk in AI financing is eventual overbuilding of compute capacity as hyperscaler spending moves off balance sheet.
- One guest said the 10-year Treasury move is mostly about stronger growth and stickier inflation, not just fiscal concerns.
Notable quotes
“the risk eventually is of massive overbuilding on the compute side because each individual hyperscaler thinks they're making rational decisions”
“the vast majority of the reason why bond yields are higher this year is simply because the economy was stronger than expected”
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Eastern on Apple CarPlay or Android Auto with the Bloomberg Business App. Listen on demand wherever you get your podcasts or watch us live on YouTube. Phil Neward is director of market economic research at First Citizens Bank and has been wonderfully patient in our world headquarters this morning with the exit press conference etc.
Phil, thank you so much uh for joining us. Do is is this inflation a buoyancy for revenues and then the stock market or is this not good for equities?
Well, it certainly has been a buoyancy. I mean look at nominal GDP running 6 to 7% that is pacing revenues higher uh in in the S&P um the the concern I have is that we have two consumer consumers we have a K-shaped recovery and when you look at the lower cortiles of the consumer the inflation is crushing them look at the survey of consumer finances from the Fed the bottom two cortiles half of US consumers have seen negative net worth gains from 2022 to 2025 their net worth has declined over those three years What happened? We had inflation, right?
If you aren't exposed to stocks, you aren't exposed to the housing market, that is really taking a chunk out. I think that's playing out in the political sphere, maybe not in the earnings sphere where we have earnings growing north of 30% the S&P 500.
This just this just in Damian, this is from Robert who um is working with a hedge fund and I I can't use his name. It's sort of like, you know, the disclosure thing. Sure. — He models out core CPI of 2.8% up from the recent low of 2.4%.
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Topics
- cpi data
- fed hike bets
- stocks fall
- bond yields
- market outlook
Companies and tickers mentioned
- BCS
- FCNCA
- Barclays
- First Citizens Bank
- PIMCO
- NewEdge Wealth
- Yardeni Research
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