Episode summary
Trump’s Embrace of Weaker Dollar Fuels Bets on New Downtrend
Bloomberg Surveillance
· · 7 min · Hosts: Tom Keene, Paul Sweeney · Guests: Win Thin
Summary
A weaker dollar is being framed as more than a one-day move: the guest argues that when currency declines become disorderly, they can be hard to reverse and can ripple into capital flows, Treasury demand, and inflation. He says a 1% to 3% monthly dollar depreciation would quickly erode the return foreign holders get on U.S. Treasuries, potentially forcing higher yields from investors and making the U.S. financing picture more complicated.
The guest treats Donald Trump’s comments on the dollar as consistent with a broader neo-mercantilist push to make exports more competitive and bring manufacturing onshore, but he is skeptical that this marks a permanent regime shift. He says the market is still likely seeing a “bump, shake, hiccup” rather than a lasting break from the long-standing strong-dollar policy.
He also broadens the discussion beyond the U.S., saying small open economies like Switzerland are getting squeezed by both tariffs and a stronger currency, while middle powers are increasingly forced into new alliances. The guest argues that the old global order is fading and that markets should watch the dollar not just as a currency, but as a leading indicator of how the world economy is being reorganized.
Key takeaways
- Win Thin says the biggest channel from a weaker dollar is higher U.S. funding pressure, because foreign Treasury holders may demand more yield if the currency keeps falling.
- Win Thin argues that export-friendly rhetoric can raise imported inflation and make the Treasury market more fragile if the decline in the dollar accelerates.
- Win Thin thinks Trump’s stance looks more like a temporary policy shift than a permanent move away from the strong-dollar doctrine.
- Win Thin says Switzerland is under pressure from both tariffs and a strong currency, showing how small open economies are getting squeezed.
- Win Thin says the dollar still matters as a leading indicator of whether the global order is shifting or merely wobbling.
Notable quotes
“when these things get very disorderly, it's hard to get that genie back in the bottle”
“all of a sudden the dollar's depreciating 1 to 3% monthly, all of a sudden that that yield is wiped out”
“it's more the pace it's been so far contains sort of a taper tantrum”
“nostalgia is not a strategy”
“my gut feeling is, for now, one off”
How the episode opens
We've seen time and time again in both developed and emerging markets. You know, the times when these things get very disorderly, it's hard to get that genie back in the bottle. So I'm sure, Mr.
President, of course, who was who was there when they broke the the pound back in the early nineties is well aware of how capital flows can can really impact markets. So. So Mr.
McCall back in the fifties and early sixties talked about capital flows when really cross-border capitals were not really in vogue. They weren't really there. It was very much a home bias.
Americans best of America, Europeans, the rest in Europe. But he introduced this whole concept of of the the impossible try trilemma. I think that's what you're referring to, where it's impossible to have fixed exchange rates and maintain them an independent monetary policy.
And you can't. Someone's got to give. We had Bank of Japan had that problem a couple of years ago.
But again, it's all about capital flows. You know, daily fixed turnover is, of course, a $10 trillion. That's all capital, right?
Not not trade flows. Let's walk away from academics. Paul Sweeney was within the bank of Nasdaq.
What are some of the magnet, maybe unsuspecting or unwanted ramifications of a weaker dollar? Again, we're seeing, again, 96 handle on the DCI index. We're at 100.
Just a cup of coffee. Go. As Tom would say.
That's what you look out for. Sure. You know, when we talk about effects moves, we I think the markets and their official not only levels, but also the pace.
A lot of times the pace is controlled and the level becomes not so important. But again, as we've seen in the past and all of a sudden, you know, fall out of bed when you least expect it.
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Topics
- weaker dollar
- fx intervention
- strong dollar policy
- yen slide
- fx market nerves
Companies and tickers mentioned
- Bank of Nassau
- DZ Bank
- Bloomberg L.P.
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