Episode summary
US Economic Outlook amid Fed Tightening | Bloomberg Surveillance
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· · 34 min · Hosts: Tom Keene, Paul Sweeney, Lisa Mateo, Michael Barr · Guests: Gargi Chaudhuri, David Rubenstein, Lauren Saidel-Baker, Matt Luzzetti
Summary
BlackRock’s Gargi Chaudhuri said the market’s strongest conviction remains AI, but she argued investors now need ways to diversify beyond the crowded trade. She pointed to healthcare and dividend stocks as better hedges in recent selloffs, and said emerging markets have become a “new EM” centered on China, Korea and Taiwan, where AI-linked earnings growth is stronger and valuations are lower. She also cautioned that the market is constructive, but “constructive doesn’t mean calm.”
David Rubenstein discussed his new book on sports ownership and said modern franchise values have risen so much that outside capital is increasingly necessary. He argued owners are often more obsessed with winning than making money, and said private equity and sovereign wealth funds are likely to play a bigger role in sports, even if control ownership remains a step further away. He also said he hopes the Kennedy Center returns to a truly bipartisan, nonpartisan mission.
Lauren Saidel-Baker and Matt Luzzetti both described a US economy still growing strongly despite higher energy prices and tighter policy. Saidel-Baker said the consumer is the key risk because real incomes are declining, while Luzzetti argued nominal growth, fiscal support and AI investment justify higher rates and suggest the labor market may still be tightening.
Key takeaways
- Gargi Chaudhuri said AI remains BlackRock’s strongest conviction, but investors should add healthcare, dividends and liquid alternatives for diversification.
- Chaudhuri described emerging markets as a new AI-led opportunity, with China, Korea and Taiwan offering 44% earnings growth and lower valuations.
- David Rubenstein said sports franchise values now require outside money, and private equity or sovereign wealth funds could eventually own larger minority stakes.
- Lauren Saidel-Baker said the consumer is the main economic watchpoint because real personal incomes are declining even as growth stays solid.
- Matt Luzzetti said 6.5% nominal GDP growth, fiscal support and AI investment make higher interest rates look appropriate rather than unusual.
Notable quotes
“AI remains our strongest conviction. Whether you do that in the US, whether you do that in Korea, whether you do that in Taiwan, that remains our strongest conviction”
“I think there is volatility ahead in the markets. We're constructive, but constructive doesn't mean calm”
“The stock market is not the economy”
“very few individuals can write a check that can buy a team for $10 billion. Therefore, you need to get outside money”
“I think that is the more immediate focus. Longer term, anything can happen”
How the episode opens
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Eastern on Apple CarPlay or Android Auto with the Bloomberg Business App. Listen on demand wherever you get your podcasts or watch us live on YouTube. So, she got a promotion, which means she gets to keep her frequent flyer miles.
Global chief investment strategist at Black Rockck. Thrilled that GI Chowry uh could could join us here. So, when they gave you a new title, what do they do?
Do they like take out the dinner or, you know, get an extra get an extra Starbucks coffee?
Good morning, friends. It's great to be here. — Um, well, when you get a promotion, they tell you that you have to travel to a few different — You think so? and you get to do your old job and your new job. So that's wonderful.
What are you telling in your travels? What are you telling equity investors away from America about American exceptionalism and about the American AI equity market?
So I was just in Asia for a couple of weeks. It was fantastic. And this question about how should I diversify away from the concentration of AI came up a lot.
Um and we are telling investors like AI remains our strongest conviction. Whether you do that in the US, whether you do that in Korea, whether you do that in Taiwan, that remains our strongest conviction. But more and more given the concentration in markets, you do need to be thinking about parts of the market.
We call it the beyond AI trade. And we talk about this in our latest fall investment directions where we talk about hey look at parts of the market like healthcare which historically when you've had the semiconductor uh selloff has held in better look at parts of the market like dividends where again if you're focusing on near-term cash flows obviously paying dividends that has especially in the July selloff been a better hedge for the AI trade.
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Topics
- fed tightening
- economic outlook
- energy prices
- consumer health
- sports investment
Companies and tickers mentioned
- BLK
- CG
- DB
- BlackRock
- The Carlyle Group
- ITR Economics
- Deutsche Bank
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