Episode summary

SEC’s Brian Daly Provides an Update on Novel ETFs

ETF Prime · · 1 hr 1 min · Guests: Brian Daly, Paul Baiocchi, Johnny Wu

SEC’s Brian Daly Provides an Update on Novel ETFs – ETF Prime

Summary

The episode focused first on the SEC’s effort to gather feedback on so-called novel ETFs, including products tied to prediction markets, leverage, single stocks, crypto, private assets and other nontraditional exposures. The guest said the ETF rule adopted in 2019 made the wrapper far more viable and helped ETFs grow from roughly 2,000 to just under 6,000, with assets rising from about $4 trillion to about $16 trillion. He framed the public comment process as a way to create a more orderly, predictable path for new ideas without forcing regulators to act as the arbiter of which sponsor gets to market first.

The guest said commenters largely wanted transparency, faster decisions and asset neutrality, while also rejecting the label “novel ETF.” He said the SEC is now internally discussing next steps and is getting close to preparing a proposal for the commission.

The middle of the episode turned to portfolio positioning, with the guest arguing that commodities and other real assets deserve more attention because inflation may stay sticky and because electrification, infrastructure spending and tighter supply-demand balances could support prices. He also said market concentration remains a risk, and that sector equal-weighting and developed international exposure can help broaden portfolios beyond the mega-cap leaders.

The final segment featured a newer issuer focused on AI-related strategies and daily income ETFs on Nvidia and Tesla. The guest argued that investors should look beyond the hyperscalers to bottlenecks in memory, photonics, power and related supply-chain areas, and that shorter-dated call overwriting can harvest volatility while preserving more upside than a traditional covered-call approach.

Key takeaways

  • The SEC guest said the ETF rule of 2019 transformed launches and helped assets rise from about $4 trillion to about $16 trillion.
  • The SEC’s comment process on new ETF structures appears aimed at speed, predictability and asset neutrality, not tighter asset-specific rules.
  • The market guest argued commodities are underowned and may help hedge sticky inflation, especially if energy and infrastructure costs remain elevated.
  • The guest said broadening risk can be addressed with sector equal-weighting and developed ex-US exposure, not just cap-weighting the S&P 500 or Nasdaq 100.
  • The new issuer’s thesis is to own AI bottlenecks, not just Nvidia and the hyperscalers, because smaller supply-chain winners may capture more upside.

Notable quotes

“the ETF rapper has won. It's it's at the point now where it's just not debatable the the future trajectory of the ETF”

— A speaker on ETF Prime at 15:50

“we really want to make sure that we continue to support innovation and put more choices out there for the retail investor”

— A speaker on ETF Prime at 5:12

“Everyone hated the term novel ETF. So don't we're not going to stick on that”

— A speaker on ETF Prime at 9:44

“Most advisers, most allocators don't have any exposure to commodities”

— A speaker on ETF Prime at 21:32

“we believe in active management and constantly monitoring companies right that are benefiting from you know the whole bottleneck thesis”

— A speaker on ETF Prime at 53:12

How the episode opens

So when someone has a great new idea, it goes up on our Edgar system. We have copycat filings for every good new idea at this point within hours.

All right, joining me will be Brian Daly, director of the Division of Investment Management at the Securities and Exchange Commission, the SEC, who is going to provide us with a brief update on novel ETFs, which this is a topic I've talked quite a bit about, but if you have not been following this, back at the end of June, the SEC requested public comment on ETFs such as prediction market ETFs, leverage products, single stock ETFs, crypto ETFs, uh ETFs holding private assets, again, anything considered novel. And in a nutshell, the SEC was seeking feedback from the industry on how these ETFs should come to market. So, everything from whether they should be regulated under the Investment Company Act to what the SEC's approval process should look like.

uh they floated the possibility of confidential ETF filings. There was a lot in this, but as we sit here today, the formal public comment period has now closed. And so Brian is going to update us on where everything stands right now and what might happen next.

So, uh he will join me here momentarily. And then following that, I'll be joined by Paul Bayaki, head of fund sales and strategy at SSNC Alps Advisors, who currently offers 26 ETFs, over $23 billion in assets. And we're going to have a pretty in-depth conversation around the current market environment, and some of the key themes that Paul believes investors should be paying attention to heading into year end.

Uh, I feel like Paul always offers a unique perspective on both ETFs in the market. So, uh, interested to hear his thoughts on that.

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Topics

  • sec novel etfs
  • investor themes
  • fund sales strategy
  • etf provider launch
  • ai bottlenecks etf

Companies and tickers mentioned

  • SS&C ALPS Advisors
  • xETFs

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