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James Bosworth on the "Orange Wave" Happening Across Latin America | Odd Lots
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· · 50 min · Hosts: Tracy Alloway, Joe Weisenthal · Guests: James Bosworth
Summary
Latin America is being reshaped by what James Bosworth calls the “orange shift”: a regional realignment toward leaders who are willing to cut deals with Donald Trump, even if they are not ideologically similar. He argues that Venezuela’s Delcy Rodríguez became the template for pragmatic dealmaking, showing that a hostile government can survive by accommodating Trump while still consolidating power at home. That model, he says, has changed how leaders from Mexico to El Salvador to Argentina think about Washington.
Bosworth emphasizes that the region is not monolithic. Claudia Sheinbaum remains unusually popular in Mexico, Nayib Bukele has held onto support despite mass arrests and democratic backsliding, and Lula has outperformed market expectations in Brazil even as investors remain skeptical. At the same time, inflation, fuel prices, and food costs are pressuring governments across the region, and he expects Trump’s confrontations with places like Brazil to create an anti-Trump backlash rather than a pro-Trump bump there.
He also argues that Cuba is more likely to be pulled into a Venezuela-like accommodation than to undergo clean regime change, while Argentina under Javier Milei still looks fragile despite sharp disinflation. The broader point is that Latin American politics is again being pulled by the United States, but the alignment is temporary and likely to shift again after Trump leaves office.
Key takeaways
- Bosworth says the “orange shift” is a bloc of Latin American leaders aligned with Trump, but it is not a monolith and includes security populists, technocrats, and libertarian reformers.
- He argues Delcy Rodríguez showed that a pragmatic deal with Trump can preserve power in Venezuela, even if it abandons the old U.S. goal of democratization.
- Sheinbaum and Bukele remain the region’s most durable leaders, but Bukele’s model has not translated into broad investment gains.
- Bosworth says Brazil may be the rare place where Trump creates an anti-Trump political effect by targeting tariffs and financial infrastructure like Pix.
- He expects Cuba to move toward a Trump-backed accommodation within 12 months, but not toward genuine regime change.
- Milei has cut inflation sharply, but Bosworth thinks Argentina still faces a boom-bust political cycle and a fragile investment outlook.
Notable quotes
“I've called it the orange shift, right? The leaders who have aligned themselves with Trump over time”
“The United States has never mattered more for Latin American politics domestically”
“They were surprisingly supportive of the operation”
“Marco Rubio has laid out a plan, which is stabilization, recovery, democratization”
“Delcy Rodriguez has an unwritten plan, which is stabilization, recovery, consolidation of power”
How the episode opens
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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Odd Lots podcast. I'm Joe Weisenthal. And I'm Tracy Alloway.
Tracy, we're recording this April 7th, 10:30 in the morning. Of course, by the time this comes out, we have no idea what will be going on with the war in Iran. But, one reason we may be in the war in Iran in the first place is because of, frankly, how smooth the operation went to remove Maduro and Trump found a sort of political partner he can work with in the form of uh Delcy Rodríguez in Venezuela.
Yes, he seemed to enjoy getting access to a lot of oil from Venezuela. And I guess the thinking is perhaps he tried to repeat that in Iran with so far varying degrees of success. Yeah, maybe no success at all.
And perhaps generous. But, like this idea that it's like, "Okay, remove Maduro and here is someone who was part of the government. It's like, "Okay, you know what?
We're going to be friends with the Americans now. We're going to play ball. Certainly don't want to, you know, the next in charge didn't want to end up with the same person in uh didn't want to end up in the same position.
I almost worried I'd slip and say the same prison. Um though that would have also worked. But, didn't want to end up in the same position as Maduro.
And so, okay, there's this sort of partnership. But, it also occurs to me like, even setting this aside, doesn't it feel like we're in some sort of I don't know if golden age is the right word, but there's so many iconic Latin American leaders right now. So, obviously you have Delcy and then you have Sheinbaum and you have Javier Milei and you have Lula and of course Bukele.
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Topics
- latin america politics
- orange shift
- trump administration
- political risk analysis
- inflation
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