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Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev on Tokenization and Prediction Markets for Everything | Odd Lots
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· · Hosts: Tracy Alloway, Joe Weisenthal · Guests: Vlad Tenev
Summary
Vlad Tenev said Robinhood is still pursuing private-company tokenization, but with more caution after companies pushed back on the idea of their equity being represented without consent. He said the company now wants to get permission from issuers when possible, while continuing to build products that give retail investors access to private markets through structures like Robinhood Ventures Fund I, a closed-end fund that invests in private companies and charges no carry.
Tenev argued that investing, trading, and gambling are different mainly by intent and velocity: investing is long-term ownership, trading is time-bound opportunity-seeking, and gambling is more emotional. He said Robinhood’s tokenized products in Europe are currently gifts and that the firm is working toward a later 2026 launch of tradable versions backed by underlying assets and regulated like derivative products.
The conversation also covered prediction markets, where Tenev said Robinhood wants to connect customers to multiple venues, prioritize liquidity and contract variety, and eventually make markets in equities, earnings, and events feel more unified. He framed Robinhood as a financial super app that wants to own more of a customer’s financial life, from active trading to banking and cards.
Key takeaways
- Tenev said Robinhood now wants issuer consent for tokenized private-company products, after earlier backlash from companies like OpenAI and SpaceX-related discussions.
- He said Robinhood Ventures Fund I is a non-accredited closed-end fund with no carry, aimed at giving retail investors private-market exposure.
- Tenev defined gambling as more emotional than investing or trading, while saying trading is essentially about shorter-term, systematic theses.
- He said Robinhood is working with regulators to make its European private-stock tokens tradable later in 2026 and to clarify the legal structure.
- He said prediction-market growth will depend on liquidity, contract selection, and the ability to route orders across multiple venues.
Notable quotes
“our approach to it has has evolved a little bit. You know, now we're at the point where we're actually surprised how many companies are interested in it”
“I think that the difference between investing and trading is really one of velocity”
“Yeah. So, all of the tokens that we have offered in Europe, including the SpaceX and OpenAI, giveaways”
“I think the accredited investor rule, needs to go. Frankly, it doesn't make any sense”
“We want this to be, like the James Bond card. Yeah. No, if you if you are James Bond, this is the card for you”
How the episode opens
Would there be any limitation legally on Robin Hood setting up a live stream of a giant roulette wheel and having people make futures event contracts on whether it's red or black? Yeah, I mean, currently our policy has been to, have them be backed by real events. So we don't want to do like derivative.
We haven't done any derivative prediction markets. And there's there's different forms of that as well. Like you have like prediction markets and then you have a prediction market on how this prediction market is, is going to go.
So, so like for example, Poly Market had a market where it was the coin toss at the Super Bowl and you could bet on heads or tails and was trading at 50%. Yeah. For the toss.
And then it went to I mean, that seems very much like gambling, right. Well, like, why even bother having the Super Bowl at that point if people are willing to, like, bet money on a coin toss? Why not just have a continuous coin toss?
Why? Why just forget the Super Bowl. Just have a coin tossing machine and let people trade on it.
Is there like, is there anything actually like stopping you from doing that? I'm not sure. Yeah.
I mean, I'd have to look into that. We don't offer any of those contracts. I personally, you know, I'm a former trader.
Probably wouldn't trade those. Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Odd Lots Podcast. I'm Joe Weisenthal and I'm Tracy Alloway.
Tracy, I think I've mentioned it before, but an idea that I've had for podcasts in general, maybe this one Monday. Other podcast I want to do everything in two parts. So yes, yeah, interview the guest.
Because sometimes it's like all of the questions I want to ask are only after I've talked to a guest for an hour and have some better understanding of the situation.
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Topics
- private company tokenization
- robinhood retail investing
- prediction markets
- regulatory strategy
- conflicts of interest
Companies and tickers mentioned
- HOOD
- Robinhood
- OpenAI
- SpaceX
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