Episode summary
Why Moderna Tanked, MSG Employees Duped By Their Boss, The Mansion Section | Diet TBPN
Summary
Moderna’s cancer vaccine data leak and the market’s reaction drove the episode’s main business story. The hosts explained that the company’s phase 3 trial did succeed, but the results came in below the market’s expectations: a 42% reduction in relative risk of cancer recurrence or death versus Keytruda alone, not the 49% seen in earlier data. The stock fell sharply after embargoed results leaked before the planned presentation, because investors had been hoping for a bigger beat.
The discussion then turned to a bizarre trading side story involving Shane Stoffer, better known as Togei, who appears to have flipped from calls to puts just before the plunge. The hosts framed his move as a mix of dreams, social chatter, and luck, with Togei claiming he was scared the stock would pump again before he could short it.
The rest of the episode covered a Trump claim that Sundar Pichai talked him out of renaming the Atlantic Ocean, Joe Lonsdale using Grok for parenting advice, an MSNBC-style cyber prank at Madison Square Garden involving fake championship ring emails, a Quest Diagnostics hack, and a Wall Street Journal profile of a 147-acre Alaska compound listed for $12.5 million.
Key takeaways
- The hosts said Moderna’s phase 3 cancer vaccine trial succeeded, but the 42% result was weaker than the market had hoped for after earlier 49% data.
- The stock reportedly plunged 26% intraday after embargoed trial details leaked ahead of Moderna’s presentation.
- The hosts highlighted Togei’s call-to-put flip as an extreme timing win, with the trader saying he was scared the stock would pump again before Friday.
- The Madison Square Garden story centered on a fake championship-ring email that sent employees to mandatory cybersecurity training if they clicked it.
- A Wall Street Journal real-estate item featured a 147-acre Alaska compound with views of glaciers and the northern lights, listed for $12.5 million.
Notable quotes
“Instead of the 49% that I mentioned before, uh it was only 42%. Which is still pretty good, but it wasn't good enough”
“Screenshots circulated on X and Ma stock plunge 26% intraday eventually closing down 18%”
“I got too scared that the pump would happen so soon that I'd have no capital left to flip the port short come Friday”
“My port down 200k almost had me full fully in a panic thinking maybe sell on the news was so obvious”
Topics
- moderna stock meltdown
- options trading
- google pushback
- msg phishing test
- quest diagnostics hack
Companies and tickers mentioned
- MRNA
- GOOGL
- GOOG
- MSGE
- QGEN
- Moderna
- MSG
- Quest Diagnostics
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