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Why Moderna Tanked, MSG Employees Duped By Their Boss, The Mansion Section | Diet TBPN

Tbpn · · Hosts: John Coogan, Jordi Hays

Why Moderna Tanked, MSG Employees Duped By Their Boss, The Mansion Section | Diet TBPN – Tbpn

Summary

Moderna’s cancer vaccine data leak and the market’s reaction drove the episode’s main business story. The hosts explained that the company’s phase 3 trial did succeed, but the results came in below the market’s expectations: a 42% reduction in relative risk of cancer recurrence or death versus Keytruda alone, not the 49% seen in earlier data. The stock fell sharply after embargoed results leaked before the planned presentation, because investors had been hoping for a bigger beat.

The discussion then turned to a bizarre trading side story involving Shane Stoffer, better known as Togei, who appears to have flipped from calls to puts just before the plunge. The hosts framed his move as a mix of dreams, social chatter, and luck, with Togei claiming he was scared the stock would pump again before he could short it.

The rest of the episode covered a Trump claim that Sundar Pichai talked him out of renaming the Atlantic Ocean, Joe Lonsdale using Grok for parenting advice, an MSNBC-style cyber prank at Madison Square Garden involving fake championship ring emails, a Quest Diagnostics hack, and a Wall Street Journal profile of a 147-acre Alaska compound listed for $12.5 million.

Key takeaways

  • The hosts said Moderna’s phase 3 cancer vaccine trial succeeded, but the 42% result was weaker than the market had hoped for after earlier 49% data.
  • The stock reportedly plunged 26% intraday after embargoed trial details leaked ahead of Moderna’s presentation.
  • The hosts highlighted Togei’s call-to-put flip as an extreme timing win, with the trader saying he was scared the stock would pump again before Friday.
  • The Madison Square Garden story centered on a fake championship-ring email that sent employees to mandatory cybersecurity training if they clicked it.
  • A Wall Street Journal real-estate item featured a 147-acre Alaska compound with views of glaciers and the northern lights, listed for $12.5 million.

Notable quotes

“Instead of the 49% that I mentioned before, uh it was only 42%. Which is still pretty good, but it wasn't good enough”

— A speaker on Tbpn at 6:39

“Screenshots circulated on X and Ma stock plunge 26% intraday eventually closing down 18%”

— A speaker on Tbpn at 6:39

“I got too scared that the pump would happen so soon that I'd have no capital left to flip the port short come Friday”

— A speaker on Tbpn at 13:07

“My port down 200k almost had me full fully in a panic thinking maybe sell on the news was so obvious”

— A speaker on Tbpn at 13:07

Topics

  • moderna stock meltdown
  • options trading
  • google pushback
  • msg phishing test
  • quest diagnostics hack

Companies and tickers mentioned

  • MRNA
  • GOOGL
  • GOOG
  • MSGE
  • QGEN
  • Moderna
  • Google
  • MSG
  • Quest Diagnostics

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