Episode summary
Two Cents 8/15 - Does Mood Affect Returns?; Most Expensive Housing; Is Ownership Still For Dentists?
The Dentist Money Show
· · 46 min · Hosts: Matt, Lauren, Rabih
Summary
The episode tied together three themes: consumer mood, housing affordability, and the durability of dental ownership. On sentiment, the host and a guest argued that Michigan consumer confidence has a real relationship with later S&P 500 returns, but the link looks more like correlation than causation. The guest said low sentiment often shows up before stronger 12-month market returns, while also noting that the survey is small, backward-looking, and increasingly polarized by politics and recency bias.
The housing segment pushed back on the idea that the U.S. is uniquely unaffordable. The host and a guest said American home prices are high, but U.S. incomes are also much higher than many countries, leaving the U.S. with a relatively lower home price-to-income ratio than Canada, France, Germany, the UK, Australia, India, and China. They still agreed that the situation is painful for first-time buyers, especially in fast-rising markets and with higher mortgage rates.
On dentistry, the host and a guest challenged the claim that the industry is 35% consolidated. They said the better reading is closer to the mid-teens for DSO affiliation, with nearly three in four dentists still owning their practices. Their view was that private practice ownership remains viable, and that dentistry’s small-business, location-driven structure makes full-scale consolidation much harder than in hospital-based medicine.
Key takeaways
- The guest said weak consumer sentiment has historically been followed by stronger 12-month S&P 500 returns, with troughs averaging 24.1% versus 4.8% from peaks.
- The host argued that current consumer mood may be distorted by politics, recency bias, and a culture of saying “in this economy” even when underlying data are stronger.
- The host and a guest said U.S. housing is expensive, but the U.S. is still far below Canada, France, Germany, the UK, Australia, India, and China on home price-to-income ratios.
- The guest said the dental industry is closer to about 16% DSO-affiliated than 35% consolidated, and nearly three in four dentists still own their practices.
- The guest argued dentistry’s small-business and location-based economics make it much harder to consolidate than hospital-based medicine.
Notable quotes
“the average return was 4.8% on the S&P 500, but when you were in troughs, the average return was 24.1”
“the stock market, if it if this follows through, is just going to be making more and more all-time highs”
“the US actually isn't the most expensive place to buy a home”
“the US is the seventh lowest has the seventh lowest in the world of price to income ratio”
“nearly three and four US dentists own their practice today”
How the episode opens
On today's show, three questions. Number one, does your mood affect returns? Number two, where's housing most expensive? And number three, has the ownership window closed? Consult an adviser or conduct your own due diligence when making financial decisions. General principles discussed during this program do not constitute personal advice. This program is furnished by dentist advisers, a registered investment adviser. Welcome to Dennis Money's Two Cents, where we help Dennis navigate all the noise. I'm Matt. I'm Lauren.
And I'm Robbie. — Yeah, you are, Robbie. The most important thing here today is we're on baby watch, Lauren. We are on baby watch. Where are we at? — Oh gosh. I'm seven I have seven weeks. Six weeks. I think it's six now.
Six weeks of just growing a human. Doing more work than any of us combined. Yeah, — It's amazing. — I definitely have that pregnancy brain thing going on. So, we'll see how well I can get through conversations. — Well, guess what? I don't have an excuse. I've got pregnancy brain without the baby, so it's all good. Wait, isn't your due date near my birthday? I can't remember. What's your due date?
It's October 2nd. — Okay. Well, if you go 20 days late, then it'll be it'll be right there. — Yeah, I I'll hold out for that. I'll make sure that — Let's hold out. Let's hold out. I was really hoping that Megan's baby was going to be her due date was my birthday. Little Walter came I think before. So, we didn't share a birthday. I was trying to get her to name him Matthew, but she wouldn't. It's okay. I'm not
I feel like that fits out for me a little bit better. I'll name it after my husband.
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Topics
- consumer confidence
- stock market returns
- housing affordability
- dental consolidation
- private practice ownership
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