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JUST RECORDED - Vice President JD Vance: They Tricked Me About Trump, I Was Wrong!
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· · Hosts: Steven Bartlett · Guests: JD Vance
Summary
JD Vance traces his political worldview to a childhood marked by instability, addiction, and the one constant he says saved him: his grandmother. He describes a working-class family in rural Kentucky and Ohio, a mother whose addiction progressed from prescription drugs to heroin, and a pattern of father figures coming and going. He argues that traumatic childhoods can leave people mistrustful and avoidant, but also deeply empathetic if they have one stable anchor. For him, that anchor was his grandmother, whose toughness and care helped keep him on a straighter path.
He connects that personal history to his approach to politics, saying he tries not to demonize opponents and prefers to understand people’s motives before judging them. On immigration, though, he makes a strong case that rapid change can fracture communities, and he defends Donald Trump’s rhetoric as often being taken out of context. Vance argues that the real problem is not immigrants themselves but a political system that encourages illegal entry and then ignores the strain on local communities.
The conversation also turns to war and foreign policy. Vance says he joined the Marines after 9/11 because he believed the country needed to answer the call, but later came to resent the Iraq War as a misuse of patriotic trust. On Iran, he says the administration’s strikes were meant to degrade military capability and create leverage for a real peace deal, not trigger a forever war, and he insists the current agreement is genuine.
Key takeaways
- JD Vance says one stable adult, especially a grandparent, can be the difference between a chaotic childhood and a functioning life.
- Vance says his mother’s addiction and the revolving door of father figures left him with mistrust and an avoidant style, but also a strong capacity for empathy.
- On immigration, Vance argues that rapid demographic and cultural change can itself create division, and that leaders should slow it through policy and integration.
- Vance says Donald Trump is widely misunderstood and that many of his quoted lines are stripped of context by the media.
- Vance says he joined the Marines after 9/11 out of patriotic duty, but later became angry at George W. Bush for using that patriotism to justify Iraq.
- On Iran, Vance says the recent military action was designed to weaken Tehran and create leverage for a real negotiation, not start a long war.
Notable quotes
“the thing that brought her out of her home, I think hastened them getting married”
“one person who sort of their anchor. And that seems to be the difference for a lot of these kids”
“I think the game of politics I mean fundamentally you're making a pitch to people”
How the episode opens
The B administration just like really screwed up our immigration policy in a profoundly dangerous way. But — Even if you agree that immigration is a problem, it seems division is the most compelling narrative for politicians. I remember this particular quote about the black community where he said,
"What do you have to lose? — I'm a black man. I feel like I've got things to lose." And my concern is when the western narrative is that it's the brown people that are the reason that your life is hard or like Mexicans and murderers. If I heard that from my political leaders, it's conceivable that I might be angry at my neighbor even though they've done nothing.
But let let me just say very often what the president is accused of saying, he didn't say it or there was much greater context. — You witness but but I think well the president I certainly have way different styles. But Donald Trump is much different as a human being than the media makes him out to be.
But back in 2016, there was a private message between you and a roommate where you said Trump was either a cynical or America's Hitler. How do you go from that position to vice president of the same person? What what is that journey?
A crazy journey, man. But look, I thought Donald Trump would be a failed president. He was not. I thought that America's institutions were fundamentally functioning. They were not. You always have to be able to acknowledge when you're right and when you're wrong. Like he's so non-conventional in the way that he does everything that things that were previously unimaginable are actually on the table. This peace deal with Iran, for example. But there's been lots of false deals.
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Topics
- iran peace deal
- immigration pace
- trump behind closed doors
- ai job loss
- opioid addiction
Companies and tickers mentioned
- OpenAI
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