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Episode 378: Anwiti Bahuguna of Northern Trust: The Golden Era of Customisation

The Fiftyfaces Podcast · · 26 min · Guests: Anwiti Bahuguna

Episode 378: Anwiti Bahuguna of Northern Trust: The Golden Era of Customisation – The Fiftyfaces Podcast

Summary

Anwiti Bahuguna argues that multi-asset investing is fundamentally a risk-management discipline: the job is to grow client assets without taking excessive volatility, while still avoiding portfolios that are so defensive they fail to protect against inflation. She frames the attraction of multi-asset as a middle ground between pure growth assets like equities and capital-preservation assets like bonds.

She says Northern Trust is seeing demand across retail, wealth, family office, and institutional channels, but the client problem is the same: people want solutions, not products. On the wealth side, she highlights tax management, direct indexing, and muni bonds; on the institutional side, she points to custom indices, ESG mandates, and “index plus” solutions that aim to add value beyond plain index exposure. She also says customization has moved from a large-institution feature to a broader market theme, calling it the “golden era of customization.”

Bahuguna also describes her career path from economics and housing research into finance, including a pivotal move into strategy work at Fleet Boston Financial, the lessons of the 2008-9 crisis, and the importance of transparency in leadership. She closes with a simple motto: “feel the fear, but do it anyway.”

Key takeaways

  • Bahuguna says multi-asset portfolios are primarily about managing downside risk without becoming so defensive that inflation erodes real wealth.
  • She sees strong demand for tax-managed equities, direct indexing, and muni bonds from wealth clients focused on minimizing tax burdens.
  • For institutions, Northern Trust is pushing custom indices, ESG constraints, and index-plus solutions rather than plain benchmark replication.
  • She says 20-plus years of US equity dominance has made diversification harder to sell, but drawdown education still resonates with clients.
  • Bahuguna calls customization the “golden era” and says it is being democratized beyond large institutions.

Notable quotes

“it is really an exercise in risk management. You are trying to make sure that you don't harm the client's assets”

— Anwiti Bahuguna at 0:04

“we are in the golden era of customization. We are seeing that very much so as I said in the institutional side”

— Anwiti Bahuguna at 16:07

“The other area institutions and even wealth clients are going into is to see can we now move from index”

— Anwiti Bahuguna at 13:05

“feel the fear, but do it anyway”

— Anwiti Bahuguna at 25:28

How the episode opens

If I had one strong belief about multi-asset portfolio is that it is really an exercise in risk management. You are trying to make sure that you don't harm the client's assets and that sort of is your key fiduciary duty to manage and grow your client's assets. You're not harming them by taking inordinate amount of volatility risk, equity risk, or commodities, or what have you.

Something which has very high standard deviation or volatility, but you're also then not just sitting in assets which have very low volatility, 3%, 4%, 5%, but they're also not protecting you from inflation fears, which are very much where we are right now.

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Topics

  • multi-asset strategies
  • client solutions
  • custom indices customization
  • risk appetite
  • career path labor economics

Companies and tickers mentioned

  • NTR
  • Northern Trust Asset Management
  • Columbia Threadneedle Investments

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