Episode summary
Bitwise Sees $1.6 Million Bitcoin Ahead | Matt Cole
Summary
Matt Cole argued that Bitwise’s new $1.6 million bitcoin target for 2036 is aggressive but defensible because the addressable store-of-value market is larger than before and fiat debasement continues. He said Strive’s own outlook is still bullish, with a published 2030 target of about $500,000 per bitcoin, and he framed bitcoin’s long-run upside as driven by shrinking trust in the dollar rather than just adoption math. He also pushed back on the idea that bitcoin must “mature” into lower returns, saying the denominator is a weakening US dollar and that super intelligence could actually accelerate demand for scarce assets.
On the bitcoin treasury trade, Cole said the sector has had a washout, but that does not invalidate the model. He argued the weak companies look like failed internet-era startups, while the survivors will be businesses with real balance-sheet strategy and structurally cheaper capital than bitcoin’s expected return. He positioned Strive’s approach as different from companies that simply issue stock and buy bitcoin, saying its digital credit products are meant to create leveraged exposure in a more durable way.
Cole said SATS, Strive’s fixed-rate preferred, is designed to meet investor demand for income stability, and he expects it could ultimately be larger than SATA because many investors prefer fixed income to variable payouts. He also welcomed Strategy’s move to daily dividends, saying it is a better structure for preferred securities and that there is room for multiple issuers serving different investor bases.
Key takeaways
- Matt Cole said Bitwise’s $1.6 million bitcoin base case is plausible because the store-of-value market is larger and the fiat system is weakening.
- Cole said Strive’s 2030 bitcoin target is about $500,000, implying a roughly 50% annualized return path from current levels.
- Cole argued that most weaker bitcoin treasury companies are washing out, but the model still works for firms with real strategy and cheaper capital than bitcoin’s expected return.
- Cole said SATS is aimed at investors who want fixed income and that it could become larger than SATA because demand for income stability is broader.
- Cole welcomed Strategy’s daily dividend move and said preferred-securities issuers can coexist in different parts of the market.
Notable quotes
“I completely agree. Uh we have published a target through 2030. So basically five years. So basically the start of 2031 5 years short of Bitwise of just about 500,000 per Bitcoin”
“The denominator is the US dollar and the US dollar is being debased and and the currency, the fiat debt crisis is not going to be getting better”
“Abundance from super intelligence will create exponential value for scarce assets. Bitcoin will be the most valuable scarce asset”
Topics
- bitcoin forecast
- bitcoin treasury trade
- spot bitcoin etf flows
- fed rates outlook
- coinbase earnings
Companies and tickers mentioned
- COIN
- Bitwise
- Strive
- Kalshi
- Strategy
- Coinbase
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