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High Mortgage Rates and a Stuck Housing Market

Thoughts on the Market (Morgan Stanley) · · 9 min · Guests: Jay Bacow, James Egan

High Mortgage Rates and a Stuck Housing Market – Thoughts on the Market (Morgan Stanley)

Summary

Mortgage rates have jumped quickly, with the 10-year Treasury above 5.3% and the 30-year mortgage around 7.5%, roughly 150 basis points higher since early February. The guest said Treasury yields remain the main driver, with inflation expectations and geopolitical concerns pushing rates up. He also noted a convexity feedback loop: as rates rise, homeowners are less likely to move, mortgage durations extend, and investors may sell duration, which can pressure yields higher, though he said that effect is not a huge force at today’s rate level.

The affordability hit is substantial for new buyers. The guest said a 7.5% mortgage rate lifts the monthly payment on a median-priced home by more than $325 versus February lows, or about 17% in seven months. But because over 90% of U.S. mortgages are fixed rate and the average homeowner rate is just under 4.5%, existing borrowers are largely insulated. The result is more pressure on the marginal buyer than on current owners.

That strain is showing up in activity data. Pending home sales have been down 3% to 5% year over year over the past two months, and purchase applications were down about 10% year over year in September. The guest said the market is likely stuck in a very low-turnover, rangebound environment, with existing-home sales at the lowest share of housing market activity in 40 years. Home prices have not rolled over meaningfully; instead, growth has slowed from about 7% to 8% a few months ago to 1.9%, and the guest expects roughly 2% appreciation through year-end.

One possible offset is a modest pickup in adjustable-rate mortgages. ARM issuance rose from a little over 15% of originations in the first half of last year to a little over 16% this year. The guest argued that this can help affordability on the margin, and that the growth is concentrated in 51, 71, and 101 ARMs, which historically have performed much like fixed-rate loans, unlike shorter-reset affordability products.

Key takeaways

  • The guest said the 30-year mortgage rate around 7.5% adds more than $325 a month to a median-priced home purchase versus February lows.
  • Over 90% of U.S. mortgages are fixed rate, so the affordability shock mostly hits new buyers, not existing homeowners.
  • Pending home sales fell 3% to 5% year over year and purchase applications were down about 10% year over year in September.
  • The guest expects the housing market to remain stuck in a low-turnover, rangebound state unless mortgage rates fall materially.
  • Home-price growth has slowed to 1.9%, and the guest expects roughly 2% appreciation through the rest of the year.
  • ARM issuance has risen from a little over 15% to a little over 16%, and the guest said the longer-reset products are historically closer to fixed-rate loans in performance.

Notable quotes

“The 30-year mortgage rate is around 7 and a half%. It's about 150 basis points up since the beginning of February”

— A speaker on Thoughts on the Market (Morgan Stanley) at 1:00

“We are now up over $325 if we use that seven and a half percent assuming home prices are where they are today, incomes are where they are today”

— A speaker on Thoughts on the Market (Morgan Stanley) at 3:23

“Over 90% of the balance or count of mortgages, depending on how you want to look at it, in the United States, remains fixed rate”

— A speaker on Thoughts on the Market (Morgan Stanley) at 4:40

“we're going to be stuck in this turnover, very rangebound, lowest level of sales as a percentage of the housing market in 40 years”

— A speaker on Thoughts on the Market (Morgan Stanley) at 5:56

How the episode opens

Jim, getting a lot of questions about mortgage rates. We've been flying across the country talking to people. Are your arms tired? — I'm hoping that all the extra flapping will give them just a little bit more definition so we can show them off as we talk about adjustable rate mortgages.

And that is the definition of an arm. Welcome to Thoughts on the Market. I'm Jay Bau, co-head of securityize products research at Morgan Stanley.

And I'm Jim Egan, the other co-head of securityized products research at Morgan Stanley. Today we're here to talk about mortgage rates. How quickly they've moved, why they're here, where they might go, and what it means for the mortgage and housing market.

It's Thursday, October 8th at 9:00 a.m. in New York. Jim, as of this recording, the 10ear is over 5.3%.

Rates haven't closed this high since 2002. The 30-year mortgage rate is around 7 and a half%. It's about 150 basis points up since the beginning of February.

Right? There have been quick moves in rates that has led to quick moves in mortgage rates. There are a lot of implications to that from affordability, housing market, mortgage market. But when we think about the relationship between mortgage rates and interest rates, Jay, there's also a feedback mechanism there. Convexity hedging is what it's typically called. Can you discuss the role that that might have played in this current episode and what we should expect going forward?

Sure. So, the biggest driver of mortgage rates is Treasury rates and Treasury rates are driven by a number of factors and right now most people would point to inflation expectations and geopolitical concerns. However, as Treasury rates go higher, homeowners that currently have a mortgage are less likely to move.

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Topics

  • high mortgage rates
  • housing market stuck
  • mortgage market dynamics
  • homeowner lock-in
  • buyer affordability

Companies and tickers mentioned

  • MS
  • Morgan Stanley

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