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Dylan Jovine | Elon Musk’s Next Big Move: Tesla’s $25 Billion Bet Explained

Behind The Markets Podcast · · 6 min · Hosts: Dylan Jovine

Dylan Jovine | Elon Musk’s Next Big Move: Tesla’s $25 Billion Bet Explained – Behind The Markets Podcast

Summary

Tesla’s latest quarter looked solid on the surface: revenue was $22.9 billion, up 15.8% year over year, net income rose to $477 million from $400 million, and gross margin improved to 21.1% from 20.1%. Dylan Jovine argues that those numbers support the idea that Tesla’s core business is still scaling efficiently, and he also points to the company ending Q1 with its highest Q1 order backlog in two years as a positive sign for EV demand.

But he says the bigger story is that Tesla is no longer being run like a pure auto maker. Elon Musk is pushing the company toward robotaxis, full self-driving, Optimus robots, and semiconductor manufacturing, with EVs now only one part of the plan. Dylan Jovine says Tesla is retooling factories, building out chip capacity in Giga Texas, and trying to reduce dependence on Nvidia for semiconductors.

That transition, he argues, is what makes the stock risky. Tesla is in a major capital-investment phase, and the company expects about $25 billion in capital expenditures over the next two to three years. Dylan Jovine says Wall Street often shies away from companies during such transformations, even if the payoff could be much larger later.

Key takeaways

  • Dylan Jovine says Tesla’s revenue rose 15.8% to $22.9 billion, while net income increased to $477 million and gross margin improved to 21.1%.
  • He argues the strongest EV-specific signal was Tesla’s highest Q1 order backlog in two years.
  • Dylan Jovine says the company is shifting toward robotaxis, full self-driving, Optimus robots, and chips rather than just cars.
  • He says Tesla expects about $25 billion of capital expenditures over the next two to three years, making this a major transition period.
  • He warns that Wall Street usually dislikes companies undertaking complex retooling and heavy investment, even if the long-term result can be stronger growth.

Notable quotes

“22.9 billion in revenue, up 15.8% year-over-year, which is good”

— Dylan Jovine at 1:17

“$477 million in net income, compared to $400 in net income, which is up 17%”

— Dylan Jovine at 1:23

“they ended Q1 with, quote, "The highest Q1 order backlog in 2 years”

— Dylan Jovine at 1:56

“it's all about robotaxis, it's all about Optimus robots, and EVs”

— Dylan Jovine at 2:28

“We are in a very big capital investment phase, which is going to start now and would last a couple of years”

— Dylan Jovine at 5:18

How the episode opens

Good morning. This is Dylan Jovine here behind the markets. Happy Friday.

Today's Friday, April 24th, and Tesla came out with earnings yesterday after the market, actually Wednesday, but yesterday was the first day of trading, and I figured I'd take a few minutes to talk about this because I get so many questions about Tesla. Elon Musk and Tesla are not really Tesla is not really a car company, it's more like a movement for some folks. Look, Tesla came out with earnings, and the funny thing is Elon Musk came under fire for his lack of aggression.

But, you know, the SpaceX IPO is coming soon, and often before an IPO, you have what we call on Wall Street a quiet period, which is an SEC-mandated period of time, about 40 days or more, surrounding an IPO where, you know, the people involved in the firms have to be super careful about what they say in public to avoid any appearance of manipulation. So, you could tell this was a very subdued Elon Musk, and understandably, who wants 100 lawsuits just slamming at you? Anyway, what do the numbers look like?

22.9 billion in revenue, up 15.8% year-over-year, which is good. $477 million in net income, compared to $400 in net income, which is up 17%. You always want to see a company's bottom line growing faster than their top line, cuz it speaks to efficiency and a bunch of other things.

There could be a few reasons for that, but it speaks to scale economics, and it speaks to efficiency. Gross margin was 21.1% versus 20.1% up one full percentage point. And the good news for Tesla EV guy, folks, fans, is they ended Q1 with, quote, "The highest Q1 order backlog in 2 years.

So, a lot, you know, positive signs for fans of the EV side of that business.

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Topics

  • tesla earnings
  • robo taxis
  • full self-driving
  • optimus robots
  • semiconductor supply

Companies and tickers mentioned

  • TSLA
  • NVDA
  • Tesla
  • Nvidia

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