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AOL Owner Bending Spoons Jumps 40% After $1.68 Billion IPO | Bloomberg Businessweek
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· · 59 min · Hosts: Carol Massar, Tim Stenovec · Guests: Luca Ferrari, Bailey Lipschultz, Todd Gillespie, Lipi Sternheim, Justin Bibb, Jo Ann Corkran
Summary
The episode centered on Bending Spoons’ IPO debut and Luca Ferrari’s case for a highly centralized acquisition model: the company buys digital businesses with “unexpressed potential,” folds them onto a shared tech stack, and tries to improve monetization, retention, and product quality over a 10- to 20-year horizon. Ferrari said roughly 500 million people use Bending Spoons products, but only about 9 million pay, and he framed M&A as the company’s most efficient growth lever. He also said the firm has never sold user data and has no plans to let third parties train AI models on it.
Ferrari argued that AI is more of a tailwind than a threat, because it makes clones easier to build but also helps Bending Spoons’ team scale its work. He said the company’s revenue per spooner rose from about $1 million in 2023 to a $4 million run rate in Q1 2026. He also said AOL, which Bending Spoons bought from Apollo for about $1.5 billion, still has growth potential through better email, web portal, and ad-tech execution.
The rest of the hour moved through other themes: Todd Gillespie’s look at Jane Fraser and Citi’s growing political rapport with President Trump; Lipi Sternheim’s pitch for a U.S.-based rare-earth supply chain built with the Army; Justin Bibb’s push to remake Cleveland through industrial redevelopment and housing; and Joan Corkran’s read on a VC market where women-led companies still struggle for capital even as Golden Seeds surpassed $200 million invested.
Key takeaways
- Ferrari said Bending Spoons expects most of its growth to come from acquisitions, not organic expansion, and sees M&A as its most efficient growth lever.
- Ferrari said about 2% of Bending Spoons’ roughly 500 million users pay today, leaving room to improve monetization.
- Ferrari said Bending Spoons has never sold user data and has no plans to let outside AI firms train on it.
- Ferrari said AI has been a major tailwind because it boosts productivity and helped lift revenue per spooner from about $1 million in 2023 to a $4 million run rate in Q1 2026.
- A guest on the City segment said Jane Fraser has helped Citi win unusual political goodwill with Trump while some staff are uneasy about rollback of diversity and firearms policies.
- Justin Bibb said Cleveland has about two dozen companies in its development pipeline and is using site readiness, housing, and airport investment to support an industrial comeback.
Notable quotes
“we've spent the last 13 years uh building what I consider an exceptional platform uh of very high talent density”
“Half a billion people use our products. Quote unquote only 9 uh million people, so roughly 2% pay for them”
“we have never sold any data. We've never uh enabled any third party to train their models on our data”
“AI has been a major tailwind for us. Uh ultimately the main disadvantage of our model is that it's uh these transformations are very operationally intensive”
How the episode opens
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We've got Luca Ferrari, the co-founder, CEO, and chair of Bending Spoons joining us from the NASDAQ. Also with us, Bailey Lip Schultz, Bloomberg News IPO reporter, who joins us here in the studio. Luke, I want us to just start with with what exactly the portfolio is and and sort of how you want to communicate to investors what you're going to do with assets that many people remember from the world of web 1.0.
Thank you for having me. Uh first of all, uh let me explain how we operate cuz it's uh quite unusual, perhaps unique. uh we've spent the last 13 years uh building what I consider an exceptional platform uh of very high talent density, a culture of high performance uh and uh rationality.
Uh 50 plus proprietary technologies and operating system for running digital businesses as effectively and as efficiently as possible and a a lot of data that helps us make better decisions at the stage of acquisition and then operations. Then what we do with this with this engine is we go and acquire digital businesses with unexpressed potential and we integrate them very deeply on onto this platform uh in a way that I haven't I haven't seen anybody do before. They share the entirely the same technological layer.
We we we have a core team that moves fluidly across all our businesses. Um and uh and we transform them deeply.
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Topics
- ipo pop
- private equity software buyouts
- banking turmoil
- tech distressed apps
- city industrial comeback
Companies and tickers mentioned
- C
- Bending Spoons
- PitchBook
- Citi
- REalloys
- Golden Seeds
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