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Oil to Extend Gains as Iran Disruptions Drag On | Bloomberg Businessweek
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· · 44 min · Hosts: Carol Massar, Tim Stenovec · Guests: Mia Gindis, Mark Gurman, Marc Champion, Jared Dillian
Summary
Oil markets stayed focused on the war in the Middle East, with Mia Gindis saying traders are watching how much volume can still move through Hormuz and whether attacks on energy infrastructure further tighten refined-products supply. She said flows through the waterway may be down from about 20 million barrels to 7 to 10 million, while damaged facilities and already-high diesel and gasoline prices are amplifying market fear.
The discussion then turned to Apple’s long-awaited foldable iPhone, which Bloomberg News’ Mark Gurman said began as an exploratory project more than a decade ago and only became viable after Tim Cook pushed the company toward the category. He described a high-end, expensive device timed for a 2026 debut, with trade-in and leasing programs meant to soften the sticker shock.
Marc Champion argued that the Iran conflict has drifted away from its original nuclear framing and that diplomacy is now badly damaged. He said the JCPOA’s collapse left Iran with far more enriched uranium, and that the current focus on Hormuz reflects the reality on the ground more than the rhetoric.
Jared Dillian closed with a bullish case for a simple “awesome portfolio” split evenly across stocks, bonds, gold, cash, and real estate, arguing that the goal is lower volatility, smaller drawdowns, and a structure ordinary investors can actually stick with.
Key takeaways
- Mia Gindis said the oil market is “laser focused on the war,” with Hormuz flows and attacks on refining infrastructure driving prices.
- Gindis said industry estimates put current Hormuz traffic at 7 to 10 million barrels versus about 20 million before the war.
- Mark Gurman said Apple’s foldable iPhone is a decade-long project and could launch as a pricey, high-end status product in 2026.
- Mark Champion said the nuclear diplomacy track with Iran is “pretty much shot,” and that Hormuz has become the overwhelming policy focus.
- Jared Dillian said his “awesome portfolio” targets about 9% annual returns with half the volatility of the S&P 500.
Notable quotes
“the oil market is just laser focused on the war. And the question right now that's on everyone's minds is how much volume is moving through Hormuz”
“the industry consensus at the moment is that the numbers moving through Hermuz at the moment are somewhere between 7 to 10 million, but prior to the war, it was about 20”
“this is a long time coming. This is something that started as an explororatory project into foldable screens over a decade ago”
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I'm going to bring in me again. This — She's got to make sense of all of that. — She's Bloomberg News oil markets reporter. She joins studio. — We've been creeping closer. — The direct directionality. You're correct, Carol. — All right, let's get to it. Um, Mia, there's a real We did see a rally in both Brent and WTI. We backed off. And so, you know, how do you read what matters to oil prices, global oil prices longer term? Is it all the war or are there other fundamentals at play here? And I'm just wondering, are we starting to kind of settle in just at a higher a higher level here?
Sure. Um, hi guys. Thanks for having me.
Always fun to be here. Um, I think for all intents and purposes, the oil market is just laser focused on the war. And the question right now that's on everyone's minds is how much volume is moving through Hormuz and how do we get that number up.
So what we saw today was um a hit by the Houthi rebels on several energy facilities in Saudi um Arabia. Um and that's a little bit of a sore spot for the market right now because
What are those energy facilities? What do we know about like what exactly has been hit? — So a lot of them were domestic facilities. So, the reason that the price didn't go higher today is because a lot of that feeds into the domestic market there and wouldn't necessarily impact the global market.
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Topics
- oil supply tightness
- iran conflict risks
- shipping disruptions
- oil price forecasts
- foldable iphone
Companies and tickers mentioned
- GS
- AAPL
- Goldman Sachs Group Inc.
- Apple Inc.
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