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Musk’s SpaceX to Buy EchoStar Spectrum for $17 Billion | Bloomberg Intelligence

Bloomberg Intelligence · · Hosts: Scarlet Fu, Alexis Christoforous · Guests: John Butler, Herman Chan, Lisa Knee

Musk’s SpaceX to Buy EchoStar Spectrum for $17 Billion | Bloomberg Intelligence – Bloomberg Intelligence

Summary

SpaceX’s $17 billion agreement to buy EchoStar wireless spectrum was presented as a strategic move that could let Starlink eventually step beyond being a partner to terrestrial carriers and become a direct wireless competitor. The telecom analyst said the AWS-4 licenses are “flexible use” spectrum, potentially opening the door to mobile service, satellite downlink, and other applications, while EchoStar gets badly needed cash to reduce debt and refresh its strategy after struggles with Boost and its 5G rollout. The analyst also argued the FCC effectively sided with the spectrum sale because EchoStar had underused the asset.

The conversation then shifted to PNC’s planned $4 billion purchase of FirstBank Holding Co., which the regional banks analyst said fits a broader wave of deal-making under a friendlier regulatory backdrop. He said PNC is becoming more of a super-regional lender, with roughly $600 billion in assets after the deal, and that the big banks are mostly shut out of ordinary M&A because they are already too large.

The episode closed with commercial real estate, where a real estate executive said New York office demand is improving, class A properties are benefiting most, and data centers are becoming a major focus because of energy usage and capital allocation.

Key takeaways

  • The telecom analyst said SpaceX’s EchoStar purchase could eventually let Starlink compete directly with AT&T, Verizon and T-Mobile.
  • The analyst said EchoStar will use the proceeds to pay down debt and rethink its wireless strategy after struggles with Boost.
  • The regional banks analyst said PNC’s FirstBank deal reflects a more permissive M&A climate and pushes PNC closer to super-regional scale.
  • Herman Chan said smaller banks in faster-growing markets like Colorado, Texas and Florida are the most attractive takeover targets.
  • Lisa Knee said New York office leasing is improving, with vacancy falling and rents near $75 a square foot.
  • Knee said class A buildings are outperforming while B and obsolete properties remain the biggest challenge.

Notable quotes

“this brings in much needed funds for them to pay down debt”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Intelligence at 2:26

“I think the FCC really took their side on this one”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Intelligence at 3:52

“the bank the Trump administration is really open for for Bank of A”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Intelligence at 8:07

“office in New York uh has definitely taken a new surge again”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Intelligence at 16:16

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his SpaceX has reached a deal worth about $17 billion with Echoar for Spectrum licenses that it's going to use to beef up its Starlink satellite network. We want to talk more about this deal and what it means for both companies and um and the stock of Echoar, which is doing quite nicely today. I want to bring in John Butler, Bloomberg Intelligence senior telecom analyst.

He's joining us from our Bloomberg Princeton office. John, good to see you. uh let's just talk with talk about what this deal is going to allow SpaceX to do that it it can't currently do.

So the key to this deal Alexis is uh Spectrum called AWS4. So if you look at Starlink and its rivals in the satellite space, they all hold spectrum, but they're not allowed to offer wireless spectrum. I'm sorry.

Wireless services over that spectrum. AWS4 spectrum uh according to the FCC can be used flexibly. It's called flexible use spectrum meaning the satellite providers can offer anything from mobile services to satellite data downlink services, video, whatever.

It's it's uh open use spectrum if you want to think of it that way. And so Starlink getting its hands on this key spectrum will allow them at some point in the future to potentially enter the wireless market as a competitor to AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile.

So Echoar's shareholders seem to like this deal. The stock is up about 14% right now. Um, what what are they going to do with the proceeds?

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Topics

  • spacex acquisition
  • wireless spectrum
  • regional bank expansion
  • commercial real estate
  • banking mergers

Companies and tickers mentioned

  • SATS
  • PNC
  • SpaceX
  • EchoStar Corporation
  • PNC Financial Services Group
  • FirstBank Holding Co
  • EisnerAmper

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