Episode summary
AI Safety and Rising Yields | Bloomberg Surveillance
Bloomberg Surveillance
· · 44 min · Hosts: Tom Keene, Paul Sweeney, Lisa Mateo, Michael Barr · Guests: George Noble, Dominic Konstam, Marina Zavolock, Sinjin Bowron
Summary
The episode focused on how rising bond yields, tighter policy expectations, and heavy AI spending are changing the market backdrop. George Noble argued that AI has become a massive capital misallocation, comparing it to dot-com-era infrastructure buildout and even the housing excesses that preceded the financial crisis. He said the key issue is not whether AI is useful, but whether the spending can ever earn an acceptable return on capital.
Dominic Konstam said the Fed is likely to keep tightening because underlying inflation remains too high, and he expects markets to react badly if policymakers sound hesitant or split. He argued that higher yields are now a global problem, with term premium rising across markets and central banks forced to lean against debt-heavy fiscal policy. He also said Treasury efforts to cap long rates have not been aggressive enough to stabilize the bond market.
Marina Zavolock gave a more constructive view on Europe, saying euro stocks still trade at a meaningful discount to the U.S., earnings growth is solid, and AI-related capex is now supporting several European sectors. Sinjin Bowron said credit spreads remain tight, fundamentals are still strong, and floating-rate loans should benefit if rates keep rising, though private credit and heavier issuance create hidden risks.
Key takeaways
- George Noble called AI "the biggest misallocation of capital in history" and said the problem is return on capital, not product quality.
- Dominic Konstam expects the Fed to deliver a proper tightening cycle and said markets may push 10-year yields toward 5.25% to 5.5% if it sounds too soft.
- Marina Zavolock said Europe trades at about a 20% discount to the U.S. on a like-for-like basis and still has strong earnings growth.
- Bowron said high yield and leveraged loans are being supported by strong fundamentals, but the hidden risk is opaque private credit underwriting.
- Konstam said rising yields reflect a global term-premium problem, not just a U.S. issue, and central banks are being forced to respond.
Notable quotes
“I think this is, uh, going to be the biggest misallocation of capital in history”
“We're in the post-truth stock market. Doesn't matter what reality is”
“I think the market's going to continue to attack the bonds. I think yields are going to continue to go up”
“I mean at the now it's about 20% like for like discount sector neutral taking out MAG7”
How the episode opens
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George Noble needs no introduction. He and a guy named Mobius basically took Sir John Templeton's pathbreaking value large cap international investment and said let's make this dance. What was it like way back at Fidelity like the first couple months of Fidelity International? You had to justify your existence.
Yes. So my uh mentor Peter Lynch had insatiable curiosity and he needed a foreign stock uh jock. So they came to me uh in early '84 and they said, "You ever been abroad?
I said, "Yeah, I've been to Tijuana. I've been in Montreal. What do you need to know?
So they sent me off to here and they said, "Get your glove cuz end of the year of 8 of 84, we're going to start our first foreign stock fund. I was it. So you know, but as most things with Ned Johnson, they gave you opportunity.
They threw you into the fire and let's see what you got.
The fire right now is AI. You are scathing our listeners and viewers that own this stuff in their retirement plans at Fidelity everywhere else as well. What should be their action into the autumn?
Why am I not surprised by the question we spoke about a couple months ago when I was when I was last on things have gone from bad to worse. Um, and let's just step back for a second because there's so much day-to-day volatility. This announcement, that release, etc., etc.
most recently all this stuff over the weekend.
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Topics
- ai safety
- rising bond yields
- fed policy
- euro stocks
- credit risk
Companies and tickers mentioned
- MS
- Noble Capital Advisors
- Fidelity Investments
- Mizuho Securities
- Morgan Stanley
- Beach Point Capital
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