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Market and FX Moves | Bloomberg Surveillance

Bloomberg Surveillance · · Hosts: Tom Keene, Paul Sweeney, Lisa Mateo, Michael Barr · Guests: Cam Dawson, Steve Englander, Sergei Guriev, Stephanie Roth

Market and FX Moves | Bloomberg Surveillance – Bloomberg Surveillance

Summary

The discussion centered on a market still being powered by earnings, capex, and valuation dispersion rather than broad-based economic weakness. Cam Dawson argued that reported S&P 500 earnings growth looks extraordinary, but a meaningful share comes from paper gains at Amazon and Google, while the rest of the market is still being lifted by revenue growth tied to nominal GDP and by margin expansion, especially in semiconductors. He said the current setup looks more like a “weeble market” than a clean bull or bear market because rotation has offset weakness in major groups.

Stephanie Roth said the labor market still looks broadly normal, with payrolls likely solid and unemployment only drifting modestly higher, but she expects inflation to remain the bigger issue. She put underlying inflation a little north of 2.5%, with tariffs adding about 60 to 70 basis points and AI-related software and accessories adding about 30 basis points. She also said consumer spending has held up partly because of strong equity gains and fiscal support, though AI capex growth is not sustainable indefinitely.

The currency segment focused on Japan, where Stephen Englander said the yen, Japanese yields, and U.S. Treasury borrowing costs are now tightly linked. He framed U.S. support for the yen as a short-term effort to flush out carry trades and stabilize yields, but he cautioned that intervention only works if underlying capital flows change. Sergei Guriev said Russia’s war economy is doing deep damage through casualties, emigration, labor shortages, and refinery attacks, which he said are reshaping both the battlefield and Russia’s future.

Key takeaways

  • Cam Dawson said S&P 500 earnings growth is running at 47.4%, but about 20 percentage points is coming from paper gains at Amazon and Google.
  • Cam Dawson argued margins are expanding largely through nominal GDP growth and operating leverage in semiconductors, not a broad productivity boom.
  • Stephen Englander said Japan intervention matters because weak yen often comes with higher Japanese yields that can spill into U.S. rates.
  • Stephanie Roth estimated tariffs are adding 60 to 70 basis points to inflation and AI is adding about 30 basis points through software and accessories.
  • Stephanie Roth said AI capex growth is unlikely to keep running at 40% indefinitely and could create malinvestment if it does.
  • Sergei Guriev said Russia has suffered about 1.4 to 1.5 million killed and wounded, plus roughly a million emigrants, weakening its long-term future.

Notable quotes

“We're tracking at 47.4% earnings”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Surveillance at 1:05

“the market cares when you have a second derivative slowdown”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Surveillance at 3:53

“the trend the actual underlying trend in inflation is a little north of 2 and a half%”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Surveillance at 38:13

“We don't know what shape Putin is in. His leadership is stable until it is fragile and falls apart”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Surveillance at 30:59

How the episode opens

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Cam Dawson does this Word doc for me. It's just for me. — Okay. — And the font size is like six. It's like six point. It's like note. It's like, you know, we need it bigger.

14 years old in middle school when you can read the board from the back of the room. I can't read this note. Save me.

Paul Sweeney. Cam Dawson joins us here. CIO New Edge Wealth here.

Cam, what's the the feel for earnings so far uh this year? We've had, you know, more than maybe about twothirds of the S&P 500 reported. Seems pretty solid.

Is it solid enough? Oh, well, of course it's solid enough. We're tracking at 47.4% earnings.

Is that real?

So, it's not real, right? So, about 20 percentage points of that is coming from the paper gains from Amazon and Google. And that sets up for a very interesting dynamic as we get into 27 because it's unlikely those will will will repeat.

But you still have the rest of the market growing at 28.8% 8% earnings growth, which is absolutely incred incredible given the fact that it's not as if we're coming out of an earnings recession. The last couple years were strong, too.

Yeah. So, I mean I is this revenue driven? Is it margin driven? What's what's going on? — This is Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. CFA Sweeney just nailed it, folks. Where on the income statement is this happening?

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Topics

  • market moves
  • fx moves
  • yen
  • jobs report
  • russia ukraine

Companies and tickers mentioned

  • NewEdge Wealth
  • Standard Chartered
  • London Business School
  • Wolfe Research

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