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Markets and Fed Uncertainty | Bloomberg Surveillance

Bloomberg Surveillance · · 28 min · Hosts: Tom Keene, Paul Sweeney, Lisa Mateo, Michael Barr · Guests: Aditya Bhave, Alicia Levine, Jim Caron, Chad Beynon

Markets and Fed Uncertainty | Bloomberg Surveillance – Bloomberg Surveillance

Summary

The discussion centered on a more hawkish Fed outlook, with one guest arguing that the central bank could deliver multiple rate hikes this year as it reclaims the cuts it made last year. That view was tied to still-firm labor data, core inflation running above year-ago levels, and the claim that policy remains easier than a year ago despite stronger growth and resilient consumers. The same guest said the Fed can tolerate political pressure and may prefer to act now rather than risk having to tighten later.

Market strategy on equities was more constructive than the recent tech scare suggested. One guest said the pullback in Mag 7 multiples has created an entry point, because AI spending is flowing from hyperscalers to beneficiaries in hardware, industrials, energy, and other providers. She argued the rally is concentrated, but not necessarily exhausted, and warned that broad diversification is harder when the same AI factor dominates both U.S. and emerging-markets indexes.

A third guest framed bonds and AI through the lens of a higher nominal GDP regime. He said investors should lean underweight duration and favor higher-quality credit, because stronger nominal growth supports earnings and cash flow even as it pressures rates. The final segment focused on World Cup betting, where a gaming analyst said engagement remains strong, Flutter is his preferred stock, and in-play wagering is still gaining share in the U.S.

Key takeaways

  • The host’s first guest expects three Fed hikes this year, calling the central bank “clearly offside” on inflation and labor slack.
  • The host’s second guest sees the recent decline in Mag 7 multiples as an entry point, especially for AI beneficiaries rather than AI spenders.
  • The host’s third guest says a higher nominal GDP regime should pressure duration but stay supportive for credit spreads and corporate cash flow.
  • The host’s gaming analyst says Flutter is the favorite stock at current levels because it is worth less than what FanDuel was acquired for.
  • The host’s gaming analyst said in-play betting is about 40% of wagering in the U.S., versus about 70% outside the U.S.

Notable quotes

“our forecast is just that they'll take back the cuts that they did last year. They were riskmanagement cuts”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Surveillance at 1:30

“The consumer is doing great. And we actually have data to back this up”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Surveillance at 3:17

“you want to be a little bit underweight duration and you want to have some overweight towards higher quality credit”

— A speaker on Bloomberg Surveillance at 19:12

How the episode opens

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Eastern on Apple CarPlay or Android Auto with the Bloomberg Business App. Listen on demand wherever you get your podcasts or watch us live on YouTube. How do you start the week with your interview of the week including the Fed here uh on what Mr.

Worsh is going to do? Adichave has a wonderful pedigree including out of Ammerst which I expect chairman wars is going to quote Robert Frost here uh at the press conference somewhere ages and ages a hence I chairman Walsh will find two roads diverged in a road or diverged in a wood and I took the one less traveled. You say the one less traveled is three rate hikes.

Really? You are an outlier. How do you get the three rate hikes?

Okay, so the way we get there is pretty simple. Let's talk about the data first. It's the data and the reaction function data.

The unemployment rate is unchanged from a year ago. CRPC inflation is about 60 basis points above where it was a year ago and only a some of that is oneoff. So despite all this policy is 75 basis points easier than last year to us.

They're clearly offside. So our forecast is just that they'll take back the cuts that they did last year. They were riskmanagement cuts.

Those risks around labor have dissipated at this point. And then in terms of the reaction function, we thought going into June that this was fundamentally a dovish FOMC that would find reasons to not hike rates. But the SCP, it's not just about the dot plot.

It's the fact that nine people expect to hike even though no one has the unemployment rate falling this year.

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Topics

  • fed uncertainty
  • rate hikes
  • equity rally
  • ai market outlook
  • sports betting

Companies and tickers mentioned

  • BAC
  • MS
  • Bank of America
  • BNY Wealth
  • Morgan Stanley Investment Management
  • Macquarie

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