Episode summary
Markets in Flux as Iran War Drags On | Bloomberg Surveillance
Bloomberg Surveillance
· · Hosts: Tom Keene, Paul Sweeney, Lisa Mateo, Michael Barr · Guests: Wei Li, Mark Howard, Jennifer Welch, Aaron Kennon
Summary
Markets were discussed as being in a sharp disconnect between headline geopolitical risk and the way equities have been priced. A guest from BlackRock said markets are repricing risk in a choppy, emotional way, leaving broad US equities reduced from modest overweight to neutral and pushing investors toward themes such as supply-chain resilience, energy independence, defense and infrastructure. She argued that bond markets have already repriced inflation and fiscal risk more than stocks have.
The conversation then widened to portfolio positioning across regions and sectors. The guest said BlackRock is neutral on US, Europe, Japan and emerging markets in the near term, but still sees longer-term support for US leadership. She also remained constructive on AI, saying the market is shifting from AI winners to losers and that selective opportunities still exist in infrastructure and enterprise software, while lower-moat retail software names look more vulnerable.
Later segments focused on inflation, duration and private credit. A guest from BNP Paribas said the Iran conflict could leave a lasting inflation impact, widen credit spreads and pressure corporate earnings, while emphasizing diversification and even mortgage securities as a relatively attractive fixed-income alternative. Another guest said markets are underestimating the risk in private credit and that bond vigilantes remain real, with duration and inflation expectations now central to how investors should think about both bonds and equities.
Key takeaways
- BlackRock’s guest said the firm cut broad US equities from modest overweight to neutral because markets are underpricing Middle East risk and energy-driven inflation.
- The BlackRock view is to stay neutral across US, Europe, Japan and emerging markets in the near term, while leaning into defense, infrastructure, energy independence and supply-chain resilience.
- The BlackRock guest said AI conviction has not diminished, but the market is now separating potential winners from losers, especially in software.
- BNP Paribas’ guest said the Iran shock could keep inflation elevated, widen spreads and eventually hit corporate profit expectations.
- A Clear Harbor guest said private credit is drawing growing concern and may be seeing investor pullback rather than systemic stress.
- The Clear Harbor guest said staying invested matters more than timing, but duration should be managed carefully as yields and inflation expectations back up.
Notable quotes
“we're flattening exposure to equities”
“it takes time for capex spend to then lead to new revenue generation”
“there has been some continued momentum into US assets”
“the damage to trust and the implications on global inflation are are going to be here for a while”
How the episode opens
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Grid thing is serious stuff. rebuilding America front and center and I it's just it's a story that's not going to go away. Why mentions that with a great chart on materials we're thrilled that she could join us uh this morning for an extended conversation.
Chief investment strategist uh or for the world for uh Mr. Frink and Black Rockck this morning. Why you're out on LinkedIn?
Dan Roth emailed me at LinkedIn. He says, "Tom, pitch LinkedIn. Okay, you want to join LinkedIn folks for no other reason to watch Way Lee of Black Rockck and Yuri and Timmer at Fidelity and I'll mention Mark Haynes uh as well at Pangia in Washington.
Way this chart is spectacular on the emotion of valuation energy up versus earnings where technology continues to win. Whatever the war outcome is on July 4th, technology is going to continue to win, right? Well, um this is a um sentiment emotional uh market.
It's not a fundamental market. The chart that you refer to Tom uh shows the energy sector is the best performing not surprisingly um so far this year, but in terms of earnings, it's the worst in terms of earnings delivery. But it doesn't matter when markets are repricing risk premier.
And by the way, it's repricing risk premier in an extremely extremely choppy way. So far this week, it's just the latest evidence that we cannot predict the blowby-blow in terms of uh announcements which is why directionally we're flattening exposure to equities.
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Topics
- iran war impact
- market macro disconnect
- geopolitical risk
- middle east inflation
- domestic political pressure
Companies and tickers mentioned
- BLK
- BNPQY
- BlackRock
- BNP Paribas
- Bloomberg Economics
- Clear Harbor Asset Management
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