Episode summary
Second Half Economic Outlook | Bloomberg Surveillance
Bloomberg Surveillance
· · 28 min · Hosts: Tom Keene, Paul Sweeney, Lisa Mateo, Michael Barr · Guests: James Egelhof, Amanda Lynam, Nancy Lazar, Steph Guild
Summary
The episode centers on a bullish macro view: the US economy is still growing solidly, and the guests argued that sticky inflation and strong nominal demand may force the Fed to keep rates higher for longer. James Egelhof of BNP Paribas said the economy is benefiting from stimulative monetary policy, fiscal policy, wealth effects from the equity rally, and AI-driven investment demand, while warning that continued energy price increases could complicate the inflation outlook. He also suggested the Fed may need a longer and stronger hiking cycle than the market expects.
Amanda Lynam of Goldman Sachs focused on the credit market impact of AI capex, saying nearly $600 billion of global AI-related debt issuance has already hit the market in 2026 and that the wave could keep building into 2027 and beyond. She argued investors should think more about sector diversification and selective credit quality than simply moving up in ratings, because higher-quality paper is facing both heavy supply and duration headwinds.
Nancy Lazar of Piper Sandler said the Fed is watching weekly claims because they show a healing labor market, but she emphasized that liquidity, money supply growth, bank lending, and government spending are all supporting activity and keeping inflation sticky. Steph Guild of Robinhood added that retail traders remain active in AI names, crypto, and single stocks, but are willing to take profits and rotate into cheaper opportunities.
Key takeaways
- James Egelhof said the US economy is benefiting from wealth effects, fiscal support, and AI investment, which he expects to keep growth strong.
- Egelhof warned that sticky inflation and higher energy prices could force the Fed into a longer and stronger hiking cycle than expected.
- Amanda Lynam said global AI-related debt issuance has already reached nearly $600 billion in 2026 and could keep rising through 2027-2031.
- Lynam argued investors should favor selective lower-quality credit in some areas because higher-rated bonds face heavier supply and more duration risk.
- Nancy Lazar said strong liquidity, 7% M2 growth, and 7% bank loan growth are helping support nominal growth and keep inflation sticky.
- Steph Guild said Robinhood customers are rotating back into AI, crypto, and individual stocks, and often take profits when names run up.
Notable quotes
“We think the risks are to a more concerted, a longer and a stronger tiking cycle just because the growth impulse in the economy is so strong”
“we've counted nearly 600 billion of global AI related debt issuance so far this year”
“if you want '90s type growth you might have to have 90s type rates”
“there's a lot of liquidity in the economy. Um, and that helps explain one why economic activity is solid and getting stronger”
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Jim uh James Eggooff, chief US economist, BNP Parib, the BNP Pariba offices in Paris. Awesome. Been there many times.
James, thanks so much for joining us here. Talk to us about what you're seeing in this US economy right now. It seems pretty darn solid.
Look, we've been optimistic on the US all year. I think the economy is doing really well and it's staged to keep doing well. We think it's benefiting from stimulative monetary policy, stimulative fiscal policy, stimulative wealth effects from the all the e the equity rally and stimulative effects on investment demand from from AI.
We think that that's poised to continue. We think the Fed's rate hike last week was really good news. It shows that the Fed is embracing this optimistic narrative.
You know, Wars used the word optimism in his in his press conference. And we're seeing that the Fed is prepared. It's willing and able to use its tools to keep the expansion healthy and balanced.
And I do get your your notes that you send out to clients. So I saw last week after the Fed's decision that you were sticking with an expected another hike in December and January, but this week we get more than a half dozen uh Fed speakers. We did hear from Austin Goulme earlier this morning that saying the road to 2% inflation may not be painless.
So you were talking about how you might potentially add a hike for that October meeting depending on what you hear throughout this week.
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Topics
- 2h economic outlook
- fuel prices impact
- credit spreads
- fed and labor market
- rising bond yields
Companies and tickers mentioned
- BNPQY
- GS
- PIPR
- HOOD
- BNP Paribas
- Goldman Sachs
- Piper Sandler
- Robinhood
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